Three C15A's

[david moore]

Thought that those interested in CMP dataplate info would find the following fascinating:

My C15A -WIRE5 (though with a GS body now) is 3844438249, Engine PR3978589 d-o-d June 13 1944 contract LV 2571.
Also in Kingston, at the Comm. Museum, is another C15A- WIRE5 ,3844438220 Engine PR3978595 d-o-d also 13 june 1944, LV 2571.
Same day, same contract, same home town now,29 vehicles apart, engines 6 apart!

Then today, I was at Barry Churchers. In his yard a WIRE3; 3844438115, Engine PR 3978697 d-o-d 12 June 1944, contract LV2572.

I would be interested to know the dataplate numbers for the "new" Ferret club WIRE5 featured in Convoy #12.

Another detail - both my and the comm. museum WIRE 5's have round roof hatches. The WIRE3 mentioned above, one day older, has a rectangular roof hatch.

David Moore

[David_Hayward (RIP)]

This change from round to square hatches has had me thinking of whether there was an official cut-off, as per Service Notes or whether the cabs were grabbed off the pile and there was a period of either being used until round-hatch cabs had been used up. We know that trucks assembled a day apart could have engine numbers a considerable difference in sequential numbers.Thank you for sharing the information by the way, as well. It all goes down in my database.

[David_Hayward (RIP)]

38444M00003 [MELBOURNE-ASSEMBLED?]
38444B00073 [BRISBANE-ASSEMBLED?]
38444S00084 ENGINE # WR3,926,603 [SYDNEY-ASSEMBLED?]
38444S00830 ENGINE # WR3,925,820 W.O. 8 [SYDNEY-ASSEMBLED?]

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OSHAWA CHASSIS NUMBERS:

3844404231 ENGINE # WR3,913,148 ORDER C.L.V. 1513 JUNE 9 1943
3844404278 ENGINE WR3,913,219 ORDER C.D.L.V. 1513 JUNE 9 1943
3844406244
3844410307M ENGINE # WR3,962,474 [MELBOURNE-ASSEMBLED]
3844422246 ENGINE # WR3,933,269 ORDER S/M 6053 SEPTEMBER 24 1942
3844424437
3844427461
3844427540
3844434500 ENGINE # PR3,975,513 ORDER C.D.L.V. 1513 APRIL 21 1944
3844437000M ENGINE # WR3,821,426 [MELBOURNE-ASSEMBLED]
3844437362
3844438115 ENGINE # PR3,978,697 ORDER C.D.L.V. 2572 JUNE 12 1944
3844438177 ENGINE # PR3,978,481 JUNE 12 1944
3844438220 ENGINE # PR3,978,595 ORDER C.D.L.V. 2571 JUNE 13 1944
3844438249 ENGINE # PR3,978,589 ORDER C.D.L.V. 2571 JUNE 13 1944
3844438262 ORDER C.D.L.V. 2571 JUNE 13 1944
3844438269 ENGINE PR3,978,636 ORDER C.D.L.V .2571 JUNE 13 1944

3844460364 ENGINE # WR3,943,036 ORDER W.O. 8 S-M0E52-446 JULY 31 1944

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EXAMPLES OF DATA PLATES:

GENERAL MOTORS OF CANADA
CHASSIS MODEL C.HU-15441-M [WATR-3]
CAB MODEL 13
CHASSIS SERIAL 3844404278
ENGINE SERIAL WR3913219
ORDER LV1513
DATE OF MFG JUNE 9 43

GENERAL MOTORS OF CANADA
CHASSIS MODEL C15A-O1
CAB MODEL 13
CHASSIS SERIAL 3844404231
ENGINE SERIAL WR3913148
ORDER LV1513
DATE OF MFG JUNE 9 43
C-15441-OFF-1

C15441-M-WATR-3 [WATER TANKER]
GENERAL MOTORS OF CANADA
CHASSIS MODEL C.15441-MT
CAB MODEL 13
CHASSIS SERIAL 3844422246
ENGINE SERIAL WR 3933269
ORDER SM 6053
DATE OF MFG SEPT 24 43

GENERAL MOTORS OF CANADA
CHASSIS MODEL C-15441-M
CAB MODEL 13
CHASSIS SERIAL 3844434500
ENGINE SERIAL PR3975513
ORDER LV1513
DATE OF MFG APR 21 44


GENERAL MOTORS OF CANADA C-15A-WIRE-3
CHASSIS MODEL C.HU-15441-M
CAB MODEL 13
CHASSIS SERIAL 3844438115
ENGINE SERIAL PR3978697
ORDER LV2572
DATE OF MFG JUNE 12 44

GENERAL MOTORS OF CANADA C-15A-WIRE-3
CHASSIS MODEL C.HU-15441-M
CAB MODEL 13
CHASSIS SERIAL 3844438177
ENGINE SERIAL PR3978481
ORDER LV2572
DATE OF MFG JUNE 12 44

GENERAL MOTORS OF CANADA C-15A-WIRE-5
CHASSIS MODEL C.HU-15441-M
CAB MODEL 13
CHASSIS SERIAL 3844438249
ENGINE SERIAL PR3978589
ORDER LV2571
DATE OF MFG JUNE 13 44

GENERAL MOTORS OF CANADA C-15A-WIRE-5
CHASSIS MODEL C.HU-15441-M
CAB MODEL 13
CHASSIS SERIAL 3844438220
ENGINE SERIAL PR3978595
ORDER LV2571
DATE OF MFG JUNE 13 44

GENERAL MOTORS OF CANADA [WIRE-5?]
CHASSIS MODEL C.HU-15441-M
CAB MODEL 13
CHASSIS SERIAL 3844438269
ENGINE SERIAL PR3978636
ORDER LV2571
DATE OF MFG JUNE 13 44



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Note from the above that GM-Holden;s applied their own chassis number to raw plates on trucks that were assembled in Australia from CKD kits. The other Holden Plates show that the chassis were exported MKD and therefore carried an Oshawa sequential number to which either of the 5 Plants added their code letter.