Chev Wireless body

[martineaton]

Does anyone have any pictures of the interior of a chev C30 wireless truck or any info on the equipment it carried.

[Jon Skagfeld]

Martin:

I could be dead wrong, but what you've shown seems to me to be a 15 cwt wireless box (which would be fitted on the 101" WB chassis) mounted on the 158" WB chassis.

Going through, for example, Canada's Fighting Vehicles, CMP Series Vol I, I couldn't find a match for the configuration which you posted.

Perhaps a review, if possible, of the history of this vehicle might uncover some relevant facts about probable matches of chassis and superstructure.

[Bruce Parker (RIP)]

Hard to tell, yes, but look at the distance along the lower edge. That forward of the wheel well is longer than the rear. This may well be a 30 cwt. (the picture of the "Truck, 15 cwt, Wireless" on page 61 of Bill Gregg's book has the same appearance and seems to be a 30 cwt.). The 2K1 and related types are shorter and have equal distances forward and rear of the wheel well. This seems to be an aluminum body that is a stetched version of the one commonly on 15 cwts. Does it have an ID plate? I have some inforation on 2KI interiors if they are at all similar.

[martineaton]

Hi Guys

This is a 30cwt body and is very similar to that fitted on a 15cwt but the body is that bit longer and leaves enough room for the wheel carrier behind the cab.
I guess the interior would be very simi lar to that of the 15cwt

[David_Hayward (RIP)]

Martin have you advised me before what the serial number is [and engine number if the plate is still there] please?

I have information on C.30 trucks as follows that might be relevant:

L4952859 to L4953033 Contract "SM 2557" SHOULD BE
2567? LORRY 30 CWT.4 X 4 W/T HOUSE ARTICIZED
AS AT 1 OCTOBER 1942: 173 PRODUCED

L 5218648 to L5218651 Contract "Not Known". actually
to SM 2567 LORRY 30 CWT. 4 X 4 W/LESS

I have no information on any other "Wireless/Telegraphy" or "Wireless" BRITISH ORDER Chevrolet CMPs, so the information may apply.

[martineaton]

Hi David,

The serial and engine numbers of my two C30 wireless trucks are: Chassis Serial 3844123735 Engine Serial WR3937085 Order No SM6051 Chassis Model C-30444-M CAB 13 Oct 12 43

Chassis Serial 2844138693 Engine Serial WR3886204 Order No LV314 Chassie Model C-30444-M-W CAB 13 Feb 10 43

[David_Hayward (RIP)]

L 5584483 to L 5585063 Contract SM 6051 "LORRY 3 TON 4 X 4 WIRELESS (HOUSE)"CMP C.60L 8443...I have a copy of a print of one of these! IWM PHOTO # KID 3042 taken at Kidbrooke.

The other is a new on on me....CDLV 314 for a Wireless. It's a Canadian order but from all my data I would suggets that it was ordered around the time of S/M 2567, the British Wireless House trucks.

These are valuable additions to my database!!!

[martineaton]

Hi Dad

This is what you are searching for!

[David_Hayward (RIP)]

Martin any chance of sending me some colour pix please of your trucks for my books?

David Hayward
Fairview
The Drove
Lower Common Road
West Wellow
Romsey
Hampshire SO51 6BT

Thanks!
David [48 today 31 August]

[Geoff Winnington-Ball (RIP)]

Originally posted by David_Hayward
Thanks!
David [48 today 31 August]

Have a happy birthday, David! Looks like Stewart shares your woe today... but never mind, the REST of us are happy to see yet two more descend further into the abyss beyond the 'big five-oh'...

Oh yeah, Skagfeld doesn't count, because he can't remember back that far....

[martineaton]

Hi David

What pictures would you like?

We have 3 chevs 1942 C15 and two C30 Wireless trucks.

[David_Hayward (RIP)]

Thanks, colour pix of al three, minus people if possible!

Thanks Mr W-B.I have come across perhaps three or four people in my life who share my birthday. Juliette, aka SHE WHO MUST BE OBEYED is peed off because she's 42 on Tuesday. Our daughter Danielle is 16 now and she starts Catering College on Thursday. How time flies...Kieran's 12 and Stuart 6. Anyone got a 16 or so year old son or daughter who would like to be a penfriend for Danielle? She had a penfriend in the US, a boy of even age whose parents were well-off. Yes I was hopeful...we need the money.

[David_Hayward (RIP)]

Mr W-B oh Great Sir, my six-year olf Stuart Craig Hayward has just asked what MAPLE LEAF UP means! He is very good at reading and like his Dad can read upside down...I taught myself to read all the mail on the bosses' desks you see. What IS the history of the wartime MLU please? I profess I could do with more input..more input..need more input [shades of that robot in the film ..Number 42].

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Originally posted by David_Hayward
What IS the history of the wartime MLU please?

First of all David, happy anniversary!

Secondly, on MLU, here's a hint:

Source: http://home.planet.nl/~whitestar/

[Geoff Winnington-Ball (RIP)]

Originally posted by David_Hayward
Mr W-B oh Great Sir, my six-year olf Stuart Craig Hayward has just asked what MAPLE LEAF UP means! He is very good at reading and like his Dad can read upside down...I taught myself to read all the mail on the bosses' desks you see. What IS the history of the wartime MLU please? I profess I could do with more input..more input..need more input [shades of that robot in the film ..Number 42].

David, I think you mean the great No.5 in "Short Circuit"? My kids watched that countless times when they were young...

Does Hanno's picture spell it out, or would you like a factual explanation? Here's another hint... there was also a 'Maple Leaf Down'....

[Vic Eaton]

Hello david
Regarding cdlv314 for a wireless this truck had a breakdown body formed by cutting down a wooden radio body as on page 98 bill greggs book all the floor beams were numbered with yello paint but it was early days for us so through the lot away including the rear steel mudguards i can see why they were called house type vic eaton

[Vic Eaton]

Hello bruce
here are some differances i have noticed between a 15 cwt and a 30 cwt radio body
c 15A rear ladder ends at roof hight
no rear body heater behind cab
total lengh of rear body 7 feet
3 roof vents one power driven
C 30 Ladder continues above roof hight forming hand rails
Total length of rear body is 9 feet
4 roof vents all manual
All steel body
The rear body heater is the part i would love to findit was an evenair vehicle heater model 204212 SER B11556 We have the instruction plate for lighting it had two fans one for forced air to the burner the other for circulation i expect its in someones
green house somewhere vic eaton

[Vic Eaton]

HELLO BRUCE
Theres a picture of a C30 wireless truck same as ours in
the mag focas on allied softskins 1977 the picture is from the reme museum it clearly shows the the rear body heater it extends the whole hight of the body and looks as though its mounted on the spare wheel carrier on thr drivers side
vic eaton

[Rolf S. Ask]

The heater is bolted on to the rear body and not to the wheel carrier.

Rolf

[Vic Eaton]

HELLO ROLF
Many thanks for the prompt reply i have just seen a picture of your wireless truck sent to me by martin my son you must be the only person in the world that has seen one of the heaters that bolts to the body ive been thinking about this for what seems like years wondering how it was fitted on we thought it stood on the wheel carrier owing to the strange fittings on the end of our wheel carrier which are in line with the rivit holes going up where the heater should be i have the instruction plate on how to light the heater it surprises me that the burner would be so close the body when it would be very hot i would dearly love to see some close up pictures of this unit the photoes we have dont show it very well if you could send us some close pictures i would pay for the film willingly this heater has realy got me going . hope to hear from you rolf vic uk .

[Rolf S. Ask]

and welcome to the forum. You will have many good times spendt in front of Your computer this fall....
Yes, I got a mail from Martin telling me you was on the net.

I have a few problems with my softweare, but hopefully I have it fixed tomorrow. I am not able to scan or download any pictures from my digi-camera. As soon as I have fixed it, I will take some pictures of the heater on the body. Must say it has been a while since I studiet it, and perhaps it is also mounted on the spare wheel carrier, but I am sure the cover around the heater at least is bolted on to the wireless body (have a picture here).
The heater is an Evans Products Co., Detroit, Michigan U.S.A.
That means the instruction plate tells so. I am not able to read the serial and model numbers from the picture, but will check it tomorrow.
I am missing the fuel tank which is to be placed in the mid of the body front, all ut to the roof, but have strong leads on one.

Found a picture on my computer. Not to good, but the one I have in hand showing the dataplate for the burner.

I will send you more info soon...

Rolf

[Rolf S. Ask]

Was checking a little on the wireless this afternon. The heater is -not- attached to the wheel carrier. It is entierly hold on place by bolts to the body. The serial # on it is B-11576 and Model # is 204212
How the burner works, is a bit to much to list here, but Vic if you give me your snail mail, I can send you a copy of a Manual called "Artic Equipment for Canadian Military Pattern Vehicles" (RTCI-C1) of July 1942. It has a section among several, regarding the "Gasoline Body Heaters" for "30-cwt Wireless Body: 3 Ton 4x4 Ambulance and Office Body". There all about the heater is.

Rolf

[Rolf S. Ask]

to show that the wireless is a wireless.......
The coil has been axtre screened to avoid radio-interference

[Vic Eaton]

HELLO ROLF
Once again thanks for the mail and all the information and pictures the ID plate you show is the same as oures do you know what fuel was used? ill get martin to send a picture of the wheel carrier so the whole thing was bolted to the body frontive yet to get into digital camerasyes we have the same coil box as you have there also our truck was arctisized with the two cab heaters
and dilutor tank mounted on front windscreen pillar the battery
was mounted in the cab and insulated the front passenger seat
being moved forward ill have to studdy your new pictures.
my home address is as follows
V W EATON
1 PARK LANE
BISHOPS STORTFORD
HERTS
CM 23 3NH

Yes i would love to see anything regarding this heater its been such a mystery to us we once though that the tower was for water regards vic .

[Rolf S. Ask]

tomorrow. The copy is in the envelope and will be in the mailbox tomorrow....

My truck also have the winter equipment.
I guess the fuel used was the same as on the engine, would make sence. Looking forward to see the wheel carrier. I recon there can't be to many different types. On my truck the wheel carrier is the same as for 20 inch wheels as used on C60L's, so it might look a bit strange with a small 16 inch wheel.
Are looking for the dilluter unit to go on the instrumentpanel...
Even the ditributor is screened, and there are many other small items due to prevent the interference.
There is a small round "thing" in the passangers rear corner of the cab. Have put in a picture. Any idea what that might be??

Rolf

[martineaton]

Hi Rolf,

Just got back from a few days holiday.

That round thing you have in your cab is as a buzzer that was operated by people in the wireless body, we also have this in one of our wireless trucks.

It looks like Dad is getting into this forum stuff!

Talk soon

[Vic Eaton]

HELLO ROLF
IT looks as though the serial numbers are just 20 apart
for the heater we do have the dilutor tank and all its associated pipe work brian asbury in canada had some of those a few years back it would be worth trying him . will send more tonight vic .

[Rolf S. Ask]

Hey Vic and MArtin

First I was thinking on the electricaly instrument on the instrument panel, which was a type of a clock which pumped gasoline into the engine true an electricaly pump. I have some of the dilluter tanks to go in the windowsframe.

Your body heater's serial number is only 20 from mine. What abouth the vehicle?
My wireless has chassis serial 3844124131, Contrackt number SM 6051 and has date of MFG Oct. 18 - 43

I think I have to start the restoration on this one.......

Rolf

[Vic Eaton]

HELLO ROLF
HERE ARE THE ID NUMBERS ON THE DASH PLATES
VEHICLE MODEL C30444-M-WIRE3
CHASSIS MODEL 30-444-M
CAB 13
CHASSIS SERIAL 3844123735
ENGINE NO WR3937085
ORDER NO SM6051
MANUFACTURED 0CT 12 1943
MAINTENANCE MANUAL C-SCWE-01
PARTS LIST MB-C2-W
HAND BOOK C30-HB1-W
SPARE PARTSC30-01

aRE THE FANS FOR THE HEATER STILL ON THERE ROLF AND WHAT DO THEY LOOK LIKE THEY MUST HAVE HAD PLENTY OF
BATTERY POWER TO KEEP THEM GOING I HAVE A TIMER SWITCH
THAT I THINK IS FROM A FORD IT IS PART OF THE DILUTOR SYSTME AS FAR AS I KNOW ALSO HAVE THE HEATER FAN THAT MOUNTS ON THE FLAT HEAD V8 ENGINE VIC UK

[David_Hayward (RIP)]

L 5584483 TO L 5585063 SM 6051 LORRY 3 TON 4 X 4 WIRELESS (HOUSE)
IWM PHOTO # KID 3042 shows one of these trucks new.

Rolf, what's the engine # on the plate please?