Nice Kiwi Carrier shot

Keith Webb · #1 02-09-03, 08:46

Kaye, George, fl 1914 Two German prisoners being taken out of the line on a Bren carrier in the Senio sector, Italy, during the NZ Div advance

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Keith Webb · #2 02-09-03, 08:57

New Zealand transport approaching the devastated Italian village of Sesto Imolese

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National Library of New Zealand

What's that on the back of the carrier?

Nigel Watson · #3 09-09-03, 00:07

Quote:

Originally posted by Keith Webb

New Zealand transport approaching the devastated Italian village of Sesto Imolese

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Alexander Turnbull Library,
National Library of New Zealand

What's that on the back of the carrier?

Great photos Keith. Its the MkII fuel tank that you see on the back. At 5mpg it was found it increased their range!

Nigel

cmp_uc_guy · #4 10-09-03, 05:37

Keith, is the carrier in the first picture a Mk1 or Mk2,
if its a Mk1, was that normal for the gun mount to be placed on the Commanders Cover?

Keith Webb · #5 10-09-03, 06:05

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Originally posted by cmp_uc_guy
Keith, is the carrier in the first picture a Mk1 or Mk2,
if its a Mk1, was that normal for the gun mount to be placed on the Commanders Cover?

Rob I wouldn't even pretend to be a Carrier expert - I'll leave that one to the many good people of this community who are.

Lynn Eades · #6 12-09-03, 08:57

Guys I think this is the back of a "ronson". I cant remember its proper designation without looking at a book but it has a nasty thing set up in it for toasting things........The carrier is set up as a flame thrower.

Keith Webb · #7 12-09-03, 09:16

Are you thinking of the "Wasp"?

Lynn Eades · #8 12-09-03, 09:17

Flame Thrower Transportable, No. 2, Mark 2c. Fitted in Mark 1 and Mark 2 Carriers. From a march 1945 handbook.

Gun mount is probably a field mod. same as the spare wheel mounting, the long tool box(bren spares)etc.etc.

Lynn Eades · #9 12-09-03, 09:27

Yes Keith you are correct. See p44 of "Making Tracks" it refers to the Ronson device. A Wasp MkII. is pictured

cmp_uc_guy · #10 13-09-03, 07:20

I was refering to the Bren gun mount on the Commanders Cover in the other picture.

Lynn Eades · #11 13-09-03, 13:55

Rob. Where does the commander go in a carrier(...duh..) Do you mean the one on the "glacis"? plate, above where the bren would normally be seen, or do you mean the one to the left,(and behind) of the driver.(this one is std.) Or is there one I have not yet found? The carrier in the photo I think is a Mark I*. A MkI "standard U.C. would have ( I may be corrected about all this) one gun mount in the front , one on the hull division plate as seen in the photo, one on each side of the rear compartments, and one on the rear plate.
With regards the "Numbers" and "Marks" (This could also be wrong, but by airing this we could both learn something)
The number relates to the motors, and the mark relates to hull design. A MkI has no side steps, A MkII (and MkIII) does.
The Carriers Designated with a Mark+Star eg. MkI*,MkII*,MkIII* are Canadian built.
Any Carrier designated No.3, is also Canadian Eg. Carrier Universal No3, MkII* is a Canadian U.C. with side steps.
Hope this helps, and if its wrong please say so, and is the commander the guy in the back? Now to run and put my tin hat on, ...Bye.