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Dodge T110L
I have to build a rear body for my Dodge and have stumbled on this picture, is anyone able to give anymore information on this truck or theatre Or does anyone have any other pictures of the truck?
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Hello Kevin,
Going off the Dodge's pivoting windscreen I would say that the vehicle was modified for the Australian Army. My Holden built cabin 1940 Chevrolet truck has the same style windscreen. The slouch hats and other uniform features also place it as the Australian Army. I cannot help you with the truck's rear body though. It has very high sides. The numbers written on the front bumper when read by a more experienced person than me should be able to tell what the unit the trucks are with. That information could lead to identifying the rear body for you. Kind regards Lionel
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Raaf
Can I see a faint RAAF on the door and bumper , or is it RAF ? Could be a truck in use with 451 squadron RAAF which used the squadron code 'BQ' they served in the Middle East and Europe https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No._451_Squadron_RAAF
The unusual body was probably retrofitted from another vehicle , could even be a body from a captured vehicle fitted somewhere in the M.E. Or, maybe the body was custom built by a workshop , to fit that particular chassis, the wheel box cutout does line up accurately with the rear axle.
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1940 cab 11 C8 1940 Morris-Commercial PU 1941 Morris-Commercial CS8 1940 Chev. 15cwt GS Van ( Aust.) 1942-45 Jeep salad Last edited by Mike Kelly; 30-08-21 at 04:24. |
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Lionel, what is special about folding windscreens in Australian assembled Dodge trucks?
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Mcp
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The locally assembled 1940 models did not have these mods but by 1941 the mods had come into local MCP production . I've seen brass opening inner windscreen frames on various vehicles , the 41 Plymouth army utes I had were examples. That RAAF Dodge pictured would have been a British contract vehicle I would think.
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1940 cab 11 C8 1940 Morris-Commercial PU 1941 Morris-Commercial CS8 1940 Chev. 15cwt GS Van ( Aust.) 1942-45 Jeep salad Last edited by Mike Kelly; 30-08-21 at 07:40. |
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Looking at the screenshot I see you found the photo here on MLU Forum. Do you remember the thread or search term you used? There may be more info in the original thread.
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No. 451 (Spitfire) Squadron RAAF
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The above would be an interesting conversion of your Dodge with a story to tell: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No._451_Squadron_RAAF
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https://www.awm.gov.au/collection/C275625 Quote:
https://www.awm.gov.au/collection/C307265 Quote:
https://www.awm.gov.au/collection/C275624 Quote:
There are 100's of photos of this unit on the AWM site: https://www.awm.gov.au/advanced-sear...e=true&ppp=100 e.g. Dodges: https://www.awm.gov.au/collection/C306659 https://www.awm.gov.au/collection/C332692 https://www.awm.gov.au/collection/C306656 https://www.awm.gov.au/collection/C306658 https://www.awm.gov.au/collection/C307400 https://www.awm.gov.au/collection/C306950 https://www.awm.gov.au/collection/C307191 https://www.awm.gov.au/collection/C307192 https://www.awm.gov.au/collection/C307279 ? https://www.awm.gov.au/collection/C305732 CMPs: https://www.awm.gov.au/collection/C208256 http://www.mapleleafup.net/forums/sh...ad.php?t=32743
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more pictures!
Found an earlier picture of the subject truck:
https://www.awm.gov.au/collection/C306654 Quote:
https://www.awm.gov.au/collection/C307294 Quote:
Not the same truck but related? https://www.awm.gov.au/collection/C307468
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Thanks everyone for the input, much appreciated
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BQ Sqn Code
'BQ' on the door is the squadron code for 451 Squadron RAAF, as carried on aircraft. Other than the RAAF vehicle registration number, there was virtually no uniformity in MT markings in the RAAF.
No.451 Squadron originally operated Hurricanes in an army co-op role in North Africa, then Syria and over Cyprus. Re-equipped with Spitfires before moving to Corsica in early 1944, then to France, UK and finally Germany in Sept 1945. Disbanded 21 January 1946. An aspect that is possibly relevant to this thread is that the Sqn took over the aircraft and equipment of 6 Sqn RAF at Qasaba on 1 July 1941. I assume that also includes transport, so these Dodge trucks with their interesting rear bodywork were most probably ex-RAF. Mike Last edited by Mike Cecil; 30-08-21 at 21:49. |
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My close knowledge of Dodge trucks is with WC Dodges. With closed cab Dodges I have seen two types of opening windscreens The US army style (with the arms and knobs as per an MB Jeep) and the other one with the handle in the dash center with the "push chain". I can't recall seeing a truck with a fixed screen? I still don't understand what is different about Australian assembled opening screens.
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The large wooden body with the screened upper walls with canvas covers.
Could it be a ‘Field Kitchen’ with all that upper ventilation? It looks like the same vehicle in the photo of the two children getting biscuits. David |
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Cab
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Chrysler Australia had their own body making plant in Adelaide, a subsidiary called TJ Richards. Australian Chrysler bodywork - truck cabs and car bodies, typically would have the 'TJR' raised stamp visible on the firewall. The early WW2 era Australian Dodge army trucks and the RAAF staff cars , would have TJR bodywork fitted . The Canadian made cabs arrived later on, with the cabs being included in the T110L CKD kits , but even then, these Canadian cabs were modified and fitted with the Aust. pattern roof hatch. The 1940 TJR truck cabs have the standard fixed civilian style windscreens but the factory eventually tooled up for the production of the required army mods which included a opening windscreen. The pic is of a Dodge with the TJR cab with opening windscreen, the hinges are visible. Not sure of the exact design of the TJR windscreen opening mechanism but my Plymouth utes ( with TJR bodywork) had a central push lever arrangement. The vehicle pictured appears to be a army DD1-16 model with 116" wheelbase, 16" rims , but it has a unusually wide rear body fitted, normally these models had a typical 'ute' style body. I had a 1946 DD1-16 for years as my everyday car , it was very reliable and I drove it interstate a few times , it is pictured with my nephews , the day I found the Command Car body at Caragabul N.S.W. I found a pic of a earlier production army Dodge ute with the fixed windcreen, I think this scene is the Ryde vehicle park, a 12cwt Dodge/Plymouth car based GS VAN is also seen.
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Thanks for that Mike.
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Most likely. It is not a wireless truck or some-such as there are no aerials.
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