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3-ton GS body mounted flush with rear of chassis frame?
This topic came up in another thread.
Does anyone have more info or photos of wartime examples that had the body mounted in the forward position i.e. flush with rear of chassis frame? The wheel wells on the 3-ton 5F-series body seem to have been designed to accommodate both mounting positions even tough examples mounting them in the forward position was very rare. Here are two photos to compare the look of a standard F60L and one with the body moved forward. The latter is a F60L in postwar civilian service working on the beach. Note the GS body has been moved forward after removing the spare wheel holder behind the cab. 614644FD-E756-4C6E-9017-0674A5C5D674.jpg 332001677_497543099225973_1067846959529266972_n.jpg In Drive to Victory I found some references of 5F-series bodies with a spare tyre carrier inside the body, allowing the body to be mounted flush with the rear of the chassis frame. 332399401_5886253551427652_882600476662666923_n.jpg
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Hanno,
Attached picture shows up in the NIMH archive; "Chevrolet C60L 3-tons 4x4-accumagazijnauto" (battery storage truck). I presume this is the 5F body. The spare wheel is more in line with the GS bodies fitted to the Dodge D60L, which also had the spare tyre under the right front corner of the body, presumably because of the longer civvy cab, when compared to the cab 11/12/13 cabs. AKL046312.jpg source: https://nimh-beeldbank.defensie.nl/f...%22Foto%27s%22 Regarding the normal GS body and the long wheel wells and two positions..... I seem to remember there was a description about this one of Bill Gregg's publications(?)........ and it had to do with the style of tyres; If a truck was fitted with Run Flat tyres, no spare was needed and the body could be mounted behind the cab directly. If it had normal tyres, the body could be mounted backwards leaving room for a spare tyre carrier behind the cab.
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5E, not 5F
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12ft flat floor body 5E3.jpg
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F60L Commando.JPG not wartime.JPG source: https://nimh-beeldbank.defensie.nl/f...2&filterAction source:https://nimh-beeldbank.defensie.nl/f...2&filterAction
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Great find, as far as I can tell these have the bodies mounted forward indeed. Although these are wartime trucks, they are not in civilian use where they could be modified beyond recognition. So these ones fall within the "rules" as far as I am concerned.
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I believe...
I read somewhere at some time that the spare tire and carrier was shipped in the back of the truck to make them shorter for transportation and often the winch equipped trucks were more likely to store the spare in the back and have the winch equipment more readily accessible. which is what I have done with my winch truck. My winch truck did in fact have the tire carrier mounted when i got it.
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Would you say the load in the truck with the body moved forward would be better distributed?
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3-ton GS body with 54" wheelhouse
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AEDB_vol5_basic bodies_steel-body_54-in_wheelhouse_mounting.jpg See the attached pics of examples of Chevrolet C60Ls with Cab 11 - with runflat tyres hence no need for a spare like you noted Alex? AEDB_vol5_basic bodies_composite-body_54-in_wheelhouse Cab11.jpg AEDB_vol5_basic bodies_steel-body_54-in_wheelhouse.jpg
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As always, new info and new pictures also raise new questions.....I always thought the wood/metal composite body was a mid to "late" war development, so I am surprised to see it on a Cab 11 here (?)
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Hanno
Sometimes the answer is right in front of you. “The body is mounted with 14” overhang on the 158” W.B. short frame, and flush with the rear of the chassis on the long frame”
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Jordan, thanks, I’ve read that. This suggests the 158” wb chassis came in a long and short version. As far as I know there was only one type of chassis frame. I did read about frame extensions, I think Keith Webb photographed some on a survivor in Australia.
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extended frames
the extended frames move the trailer hitch back the 14 inches to the rear giving a better tow geometry.
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Thank you for attaching the diagrams and the photographs. So the difference is a 14 inch overhang over the rear of the chassis - as the most common configuration. The less common alternative is the rear of the body being flush with the end of the chassis. The diagrams made it clearer. With most of the photographs being at a 3/4 angle it was hard to tell the difference. Well to someone who is not very well schooled in things CMP. I am more in the MCP camp. Kind regards Lionel
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