British instruments

Ben · #1 16-10-10, 22:39

Hi

I'm looking for any British instruments that you might have for sale, suitable for a British carrier (or any other British carrier parts looking for a new home). Also looking for pictures of British dash panels to help with the build.

Thanks

Ben

kevin powles · #2 17-10-10, 00:42

HI BEN, i have a british carrier temperature gauge complete with wire and sender and if interested also a mk2 carrier speedo, will trade for other carrier parts, I also have internal parts from a british carrier dash.

Kevin.

Lynn Eades · #3 17-10-10, 02:50

I take that you a talking about a bowden gauge (with a capillary tube, bulb, full of alcohol)

kevin powles · #4 17-10-10, 14:10

hi lynn, yes thats the one, Ben, I think I have the internals here for the instrument panel you have if it was supplied with the carrier you bought from shaun.

Kevin.

Bob Moseley (RIP) · #5 18-10-10, 07:05

Hi all - coincidently I had a call from an Oz aquaintance about instruments for his English Carrier. The panels in the Oz Carriers were all sourced from Ford truck. Were the English instruments also sourced from a truck manufacturer, and if so, who?

Bob

wayne lane · #6 22-10-10, 13:34

Hi Bob Wayne from Lithgow i see your post regarding info on the English dash i might just keep an eye on your post and see if you get any replys give us a yell if something comes up

thanks regards wayne

Bob Moseley (RIP) · #7 24-10-10, 11:57

Come on you pommy Carrier owners and experts. Where is my information on the origin of pommy Carrier instruments?

Bob

Little Jo · #8 28-10-10, 10:41

Hi Bob

Been working at a mates place for a few days and I note he has a room full of instument panels. Sorry Bob just thought I would answer your plea seeing no one is answering you. What are mates for.

Little Jo

Lynn Eades · #9 28-10-10, 12:10

I was of the unsubstantiated opinion, (total assumption) that the panels would have been made by the various carrier manufacturers. The instruments themselves were scourced from various instrument manufacturers. each type (ie speedo was by Smiths, the temperature gauge by IRAC?) being different in a carrier.
I cannot recall the manufacturers of the oil pressure guage, or the amp meter.(maybe I never knew) If memory serves me the face of the British ammeter is white, while the oil pressure gauge is black.
A little (Australian) bird told me that the panels were made by CAV?
The approach was different to when Australia built carriers, where they used what ever Ford was able to supply.
Does that help? This will probably now be corrected, by the thus far, silent majority. (Which I would like to encourage, in the interest of accuracy)

nigel ward · #10 28-10-10, 15:01

Hi all

I thought I would put my 2 cents in considering I am most likely the Australian bird Lynn spoke about.

The 2 photos attached are of some of the bit I have managed to put together over the past few years.

I will talk about what I consider to be British made parts for a British made carrier.

As far as I an aware, there are no Canadian carriers in Australia BUT I'm happy to be shown otherwise.

The speedo in the photo is made by smiths and is the same as the remains of the 1 from my carrier (AOP Mk2)

The Amp Gauge is made by CAV and is NOS. The 3 holes drilled into the outer flange fit perfectly to those in the control panel.

The oil pressure gauge is an issue. I have never been able to find another (but would love one)

The water temp gauge is indeed ARIC. Both the temp and oil gauges are mounted with 4 machine screws to the outer flange.

The light switch/ ignition switch is CAV. The is at least the newer version is so I assume the original (mounted) is as well. An interesting note is that the original ignition switch is blanked off with only a screw. I would be interested in a reason why. Again I assume that it came from a truck or such like and not required for the carrier.

Another point of interest is that the control panel was originally painted green and not black.

So, I hope this helps. I concur with Lynn, British carriers ( of the one I have at least) used gauges from at least 3 different suppliers. SMITHS, ARIC and CAV.

Happy gauge hunting

Nigel

Ben · #11 28-10-10, 20:30

Nigel

Thanks for the reply, what model of British carrier is that from?

I have a copy a British manual and the one shown doesn't have the "extra" lower dial. Also I believe some Canadian carriers had British instruments ( I think Eddys has them )

I know Lynn did a thread on Instrument panels which was a great help.

Thanks

Ben

Lynn Eades · #12 28-10-10, 21:17

Thanks for that.(Sorry for calling you a bird) We missed some stuff here. The (I've covered this before) starter button is by the Prince of Darkness (Joseph Lucas) and apart from the surround, and button, is the same as early LandRover, or early Fergy (gear lever start) tractor. here are some variations to the instrument light, at least one of them was Lucas, and the toggle switches were CAV (I think) similar to Valentine tank switches.
Advertisement. I would like to buy three switches, instrument light (steel one) and the white faced CAV ammeter. PLEASE!!

Lynn Eades · #13 28-10-10, 21:34

The dash panel you are talking about is from The Armoured O.P. MkIIIw. (My Carrier)
Eddies carrier will be one of those built by Ford of Canada, under contract, using British built componentary, sent to Canada, for installation. - read Nigel Watsons Book (Vol.1?)

Bob Moseley (RIP) · #14 29-10-10, 08:37

Thanks guys.

Bob

wayne lane · #15 07-11-10, 12:32

thanks for your help Bob the info and photos from Nigel Ward will be a good kick off

cheers to all for all the info

Wayne Lane

Colin Alford · #16 17-11-10, 23:26

This switch may be of interest to someone. I don't know if they were still using this switch in land rovers, but it certainly looks to be the same as for the carrier. I think the seller may have 2 of them.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/C-A-V-LUCAS-SW...2#ht_500wt_688

Colin

kevin powles · #17 08-09-12, 23:22

Hi, I have a NOS BREN CARRIER BRITISH speedo, not seen a new one before would look good in a British dash!, any takers?.

kev.

colin jones · #18 09-09-12, 00:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by nigel ward

Hi all

I thought I would put my 2 cents in considering I am most likely the Australian bird Lynn spoke about.

The 2 photos attached are of some of the bit I have managed to put together over the past few years.

I will talk about what I consider to be British made parts for a British made carrier.

As far as I an aware, there are no Canadian carriers in Australia BUT I'm happy to be shown otherwise.
The speedo in the photo is made by smiths and is the same as the remains of the 1 from my carrier (AOP Mk2)

The Amp Gauge is made by CAV and is NOS. The 3 holes drilled into the outer flange fit perfectly to those in the control panel.

The oil pressure gauge is an issue. I have never been able to find another (but would love one)

The water temp gauge is indeed ARIC. Both the temp and oil gauges are mounted with 4 machine screws to the outer flange.

The light switch/ ignition switch is CAV. The is at least the newer version is so I assume the original (mounted) is as well. An interesting note is that the original ignition switch is blanked off with only a screw. I would be interested in a reason why. Again I assume that it came from a truck or such like and not required for the carrier.

Another point of interest is that the control panel was originally painted green and not black.

So, I hope this helps. I concur with Lynn, British carriers ( of the one I have at least) used gauges from at least 3 different suppliers. SMITHS, ARIC and CAV.

Happy gauge hunting

Nigel

Actually, I think I have the only T16 here in Australia. Have you forgotten you're visit here Nigel!

Colin.

Lynn Eades · #19 09-09-12, 11:24

I think you'll find the T16 was built in the good ole US of A.

Sorry mate!

colin jones · #20 09-09-12, 22:57

Oooops!!