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Old 07-01-06, 15:16
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Default British Airborne Oerliken mount

I've decided that I'd like to get this little modelling project off the ground finally. I was hoping that perhaps someone out there has some dimensional drawings of the wheeled platform and mount. I'm going to use the AA Oerliken with some minor conversion and the Resicast wheels but really need some good measurement of the base.

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Old 07-01-06, 18:10
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I was hoping that perhaps someone out there has some dimensional drawings of the wheeled platform and mount.
The octagonal base like this has?

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Old 07-01-06, 20:40
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Default That's the one

I'm getting lots of photos but I'm still in need of dimensions.

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Old 07-01-06, 21:12
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call the pattern room. 5 years ago they sent me copies of EVERYTHING!!!
mount, gun, sights, everything that a person would need to build a entire setup.
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Old 08-01-06, 00:17
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I'm getting lots of photos but I'm still in need of dimensions.

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Sean
The question still stands about the octagonal base.

In case you didn't know, the gun pictured lives just 400yds away and the owner, who is a very good friend, has a set of manufacturing drawings.

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Old 11-01-06, 00:29
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Default Octagonal base

Yes that's it. The basic dimensions would help me out greatly if possible. I'll pay for any time, copies and postage.
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Old 11-01-06, 00:31
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Default Pattern Room?

Forgive my ignorance but what is the Pattern Room and how do I get ahold of them?.

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Old 11-01-06, 04:27
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MoD Pattern Room

MINISTRY OF DEFENCE PATTERN ROOM AND SMALL ARMS TECHNICAL INFORMATION CENTRE TO BE GIFTED TO THE ROYAL ARMOURIES MUSEUM

The MoD Pattern Room is the world’s largest working reference collection of military small arms from 1850 to current experimental, prototype and issue examples. Due to a combination of factors the collection, formerly housed at the Royal Small Arms Factory Enfield and latterly BAe Systems Royal Ordnance factory Nottingham, needed a new home.

After careful research into a number of options, the Royal Armouries, with its own superb collection of small arms from all ages, was chosen as the best option. Not only was this a cost effective solution, it also took into account that this would be both beneficial to and enhance services provided to users and those undertaking academic research. The combination of these two collections will form the National Firearms Centre at the Royal Armouries.

The MoD Pattern Room will cease operations in May 2005 while the collections are being unified. The collection is not open to the general public, however bonfide researchers will be able to request access to the Centre once it is reopened in the Autumn of 2005.


THE ROYAL ARMOURIES AND THE PATTERN ROOM TO FORM THE NATIONAL FIREARMS CENTRE

The new arrangement means that the Royal Armouries will become the world’s leading repository of historic and current firearms, and an international centre of excellence without equal. This will become the National Firearms Centre.

The Royal Armouries looks forward to building on the Pattern Room’s exceptional work in serving its world-wide clientele and re-establishing the historic link between the two organisations which existed in the Tower of London in the early 19th century.

Now the two major collections of British military sealed pattern weapons are being brought together so that the full story of the British serviceman’s small arms can be told in one institution

Work on the new site to house the collection started in early 2005 and is due for completion this year. The gifting of the MoD Pattern Room is scheduled for September of the same year.

The new National Firearms Centre should become operational in the Autumn of 2005.
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Old 11-01-06, 10:06
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Default Re: Re: British Airborne Oerliken mount

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The octagonal base like this has?
No, the airborne mount is entirely different, see the pic below (source). That is, if were talking Polstens and not Oerlikons here (as far as I know the latter were not used by Airborne units).

See http://www.boltonipms.co.uk/Tracks/T...m_Polsten.html for more detail pictures.

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Old 14-01-06, 14:26
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Default Thanks Hanno

Great Link Thanks much. I am looking for this exact one. I should be able to get my measurements from the pictures using the length of the barrel as a gauge.
Looking into this it's amazing how many different mounts have come up for the two guns both the Polsten and the Oerliken.

Thanks to everyone else as well for the info. sent my way both through the site and through email.

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Old 20-01-06, 02:49
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Default Interesting Polsten picture

Just a side note to my original topic. I was browsing through an old HMSO book on the British in Burma during WW2 and came across a photo of a line of Polsten/Oerliken guns lined up in a row somewhere in the theatre just after being received. All on wheels and they look to be the same as the Airborne mounts.
I didn't know they were used much outside the Airborne.
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Old 03-02-06, 08:48
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Hanno,

The Polsten in your picture is a replica made by a friend of mine, there were 3 made I believe.

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Old 06-02-06, 17:02
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@Welbike

is the polsten completely copied where one gets such a thing
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Old 06-02-06, 21:17
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The Polsten in your picture is a replica made by a friend of mine, there were 3 made I believe.
Yes, I read about it. The Hartenstein Museum bought one, didn´t they?

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Old 07-02-06, 03:24
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Everything is copied exept the gun itself, the ammo drums and the wheels, I believe from original drawings.

There is one indeed in the Hartenstein Airborne museum in Oosterbeek, holland, as these were actually used there in '44

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Old 07-02-06, 18:18
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Where can one agree such a Copie still here, does somebody produce???
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i think i found the plans for the mount / gun and the service book. i may start selling the copies at my cost if anyone would want them.
let em know, thanks
dave
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