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Old 21-02-21, 08:16
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https://www.flickr.com/photos/88572252@N06/36177432302

https://www.awm.gov.au/collection/C356131

Early October 1941 - Brothers-in-arms, Australian Army, 19 Brigade, 2/1 Anti-Tank Regiment gun team with 2 pound 'portee' A/T gun on the road to Haifa, during the move to Ras Baalbek Camp, Syria (now Lebanon)
Photograph - 1941

An unidentified officer waits in the driver's seat of a very dirty Salvation Army Red Shield vehicle outside the Red Shield 'Hop In'. The Red Shield sign is prominently displayed on the door of the building, it reads 'Hop In, You're Welcome' and depicts a kangaroo.
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Old 14-10-21, 08:03
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Hi Mike
I found these pictures,
one pu my error but i am not an expert on these

what was the number on your Pu?
it looked like 99
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Old 14-10-21, 08:46
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Default Nice pics

The number located on the bonnet is 0 36?0 very faded but readable, that PU was found up at Winton .

I got onto another Morris PU in N.S.W. up past Deniliquin, , a stripped cab/chassis , I paid the guy , told him it would be a long while before I could pick it up but some time later he resold it ! I was at the local newsagents looking through a vintage car magazine and in the adverts was my PU Morris at Deniliquin for sale again

I am guessing: maybe less than twenty made it to Australia. Colin A had a spare chassis..... which was scrapped sadly .

BTW those pics are all 15cwt CS8 except for the kiwi PU
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Old 15-10-21, 02:29
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hi Mike
I came across somthing about the 0 prefix,
not in the AWM records, I will have to do some digging.

Can the O be the PNG prefix? then that would be in the PNG allocation of numbers, I have 8 as the MD no. and NG? as the letter.
if you are very lucky you may find the original WD no. painted on the bonnet or on the under side of the bonnet.
I clean the ambos off with soap and scotchbrite, and a uv lamp to help but the light was poor.
I did not realise that Australian Army Number would be painted above the WD no.
But it was unlikely it had one.


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Old 15-10-21, 08:44
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Default Bonnet swaps

The bonnets were sometimes swapped around during workshop maintenance. The mechanics often didn't care about reg. numbers

The Morris and other British makes usually have a small brass contract plate fixed onto the dash panel. The contract cards will give you the W.D. reg. Numbers range allocated to each contract. I have a CS8 fitted with a bonnet that is displaying a W.D. Z prefix number , unfortunately that number doesn't fit into the range of WD numbers allocated to that particular CS8 contract, in this case the bonnet has been swapped

Not sure about PNG numbers ?

The O prefix reg. system was probably peculiar to Palestine only.

The PU I found at Winton has this contract nr., on the brass dash plate. Thanks to Rory Ballard for locating the card.
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Old 16-10-21, 01:50
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Hi Mike
cheers for the info I did a long reply but thats got lost?

C for Ceylon.

Bonnet was probably swapped here or post war,

wd no.s came with the Army Book so had to match the chassis and engine no.(frame/eng.no m/cs)
ROC ones destroyed.
Austin trucks(not Ambulances) are in the main in sequence, as are Norton m/cs,
BSA a bit mixed.

I have picture of two Austin Ambulance with the AMF no. 1207004,both in NSW, one ambulance has is a 1 MD.sticker.

in roc records there are two Austin Amblances with the same WD no.
one had the chassis no altered to match the bonnet no.
so it happens.

3 AACC had AUSTIN 1 and AUSTIN 2, for two of its Austin Ambulances.

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Old 16-10-21, 03:43
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Hi Mike
I have Rob Van Meels book's B vehtcle WD numbers (2001/2002)
Groucho publishing, quite handy.

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another pic 8cwt or 15cwt?
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Old 16-10-21, 22:33
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8 cwt. Early in the war 15 cwts all had aero screens. Also, only 8cwts (and 4x2 portees) had 'windows' in the canvas.
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Default Any idea NZ colours?

While we are looking at pics of NZ CS8s ...
I am thinking of replicating mine with the markings of the pic Rupert posted of the one over the sandbag pits (plate 9143) - there are a few other pix of same vehicle in that wonderful NZ photo collection.
Am guessing the silver fern emblem is white on black but am yet to find someone who can tell me the colour behind the 12 on opposite front guard?
Any clues, more pix appreciated.
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