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British WW2 180 Gallon 20-cwt Bowsers restoration
Hi Guys I have just found & recovered 2 180 gallon 20cwt water bowsers before they went to the scrapman.
Can anyone help with parts to complete the restoration of 1 of them and old or modern photos. Are there any in UK museums so that I can get photos and measurements. Thanks Ian Last edited by Ian L; 14-05-12 at 15:50. |
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If I am not mistaken I thought there was some info on hmvf about one of these as someone else saved one a year or so back and asked the very same question.
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Hi Robin I have posted the 'finds' on HMVF but that was only yesterday & about 4 weeks ago when I saved the first one so there may be 2 of us with these bowsers ? if so I would like to contact the other owner.
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Image
Here is an image of the 'business end' of this Trailer.
Plate4B-180GallonWaterTanktrailer-RearView.jpg http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e3...r-RearView.jpg |
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Thanks thats a realy good start, there are some differences between my 2 trailers and your photo but now I can see how it works and whats missing !!!!!! cant see me ever finding all those fitting so a lot of fabricating will have to be done, do you have any more photos please ?
Last edited by Ian L; 15-05-12 at 09:26. |
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Perhaps Barry C can chime in on this since he owns my old 20cwt water bowser...
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Unable to find a spring to fit the brake adjuster I had a couple specialy made by this company http://www.springmasters.com/
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1944 Austin K5 (Runner up BEST BRITISH SOFT SKIN War & Peace show 2012) 1945 Standard Utility (Tilly) X 2 1944 Morris C8 GS 1945 Bedford QLR/D 1944 Ford GPW (RAF) 1947 Humber Heavy utility 'Box' (RAF) 1936 Compressor Trailer (RAF) 10cwt Mortar/ammunition Trailer MK2 10cwt GS Trailer MK2 1940 15cwt 180 Gallon Water Bowser trailer. 1942 1 Ton 7KW Generator Trailer. 1942 1 Ton GS Trailers X2 1944 Norton 16H 1942 Ariel WNG 1940 Matchless G3 1943 James ML 1940 Royal Enfield WDC Last edited by Ian L; 20-11-12 at 08:07. |
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Went to pickup some Bedford QL parts from a well known military vehicle collector in Southern England today and came away with another Pump & valves etc for the Bowser but best of all is a top cover for a Meta or Stellar Filter.
Amazing what turns up when you have a good rummage arround, the plan is to have another top cast and make the bottom sections which should be easy
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Tow hitch is now finished and ready for fitting, this caused us a few problems restoring the hitch as it has no return spring but uses a friction material in sprung loaded clamps to slowup & dampen the braking action.
I was not able to replicate the curved brake lining material so in the end brass bearings were made and the front one is in 2 halfs to slow up the hitch movement under braking.
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http://hmvf.co.uk/forumvb/showthread...er-restoration
Hi guys its been a long time since I updated this restoration blog so check out the link, its nearing completion so I will start posting again soon.
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I'm still after one of these handbooks if anyone can help ? please.
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British vs. Canadian Water Trailers
Please note I have cleaned up this thread by separating posts into two disctinct threads: British WW2 180 Gallon 20-cwt Bowsers restoration and Canadian 180-gal 20-cwt water trailer info.
There are are differences between the British and Canadian built watrer trailers. Although the Canadian trailers were built to the British design, they did differ in respects of methods of construction and parts like brakes etc. The latter were off Ford CMPs on Canadian built ones. The difference between the Canadian 15-cwt and 20-cwt is one or two extra cross members in the chassis and 20" (instead of 16") wheels on special adapters to fit the hubs.
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Wrecked British water trailer in Korea
36639341521_757027f295_o.jpg Source: https://www.flickr.com/photos/britis...57687925962996
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A British 180-gal water trailer in service with the Dutch Army, 1947:
2001_N0000154-01_resized.jpg Source: https://nimh-beeldbank.defensie.nl/f...f-2f731cb99b69
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A nice large reference picture of a 15-cwt water trailer in service with the Dutch Army, 1946:
2001_N0000070-12.jpg Source: https://nimh-beeldbank.defensie.nl/f...3-ba9571e59cd5
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Here is a British water tank left by the BEF 1940 Dunkirk area. Photo from my collection.
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