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Old 18-12-13, 19:47
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Just a thought, but maybe you can do standard battle damage repair on 90 % of it, and leave a small spot as-is to preserve the history of what happened to it, maybe that jagged hole in the side plate.People will ask why is it like that, and then the history could be explained
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Old 21-12-13, 18:30
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Looking good James.....did you ever get any other information on the other item we were talking about?
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Old 21-12-13, 18:54
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Hi Lance,

No, I only managed last week to get a reply on some spares. A long proces!!!
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Old 22-12-13, 19:41
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Yea I have pretty much given up on that and some other things.
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Old 13-12-15, 13:33
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Hi Hanno,

Thank you for the suggestions. I do like your idea of the field patch up! It is certainly something to mull over.
James,

Here are a few pictures from TANK RECOVERY to help you in your mulling over this subject

The subject vehicle in the pictures is a Sherman but I do not know why they would not do this on light armoured vehicles if such a field repair could return them into service.

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Old 13-12-15, 19:47
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Looks a little like a firefly.

Pity no other pictures in the series.

Nice photos though.

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Old 14-12-15, 03:14
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Love the Otter! what unique piece of history...as for the damage...it'd kind of a tough call, patching as would have been done in service will leave a lot of the uninformed thinking it was a poor restoration...tough on some folks ego, not on others..completely repairing it as if it never happened seems to be like re-writing history...as for range damage..I think it is fine to leave it as long as you don't misrepresent it...it is a very interesting thing to see what kind of damage can be inflicted on armor plate...I have some plates we cut out of our range find Sherman that I kept just to be able to show people exactly what happens when a round penetrates a tank...the circle left on the inside around the point of entry is amazing...and frightening to think where those metal splinters would end up
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Old 14-12-15, 05:21
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That makes for a very interesting compromise. The range damaged plates are part of the history of the vehicle. By saving some of the more interesting examples for display with a fully restored vehicle, respects it's history and adds great value to any display of it in the future. Personally, I would go that route.

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Old 14-12-15, 14:15
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Looks a little like a firefly.
I agree...radio box and square hatch on turret; definately Firefly Vc.

Lovely pics of a Sherman M4A1 Duplex Drive in the same series as well.

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Gary Burns now owns this Otter. He has restored the "Normandy battle damage". I am using quotes as Gary noted that this Otter is fitted with an extra latch to keep the doors open. He analysed many photos and concluded that only the post war Dutch ones have these latches fitted. So, it is more likely this Otter was damaged on a Dutch range, rather than in Normandy...

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I looked at a few photos and I think Gary has proved the French owner made up a story for his Otter. Anyhow, it is now in good hands and is under restoration.

Take a close look, these Otters have a latch to keep the doors in the open position:

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Not all Dutch Otters had them, though:

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Old 03-12-22, 13:11
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Gary Burns just completed his restoration on this Otter - a job very well done!

“ Tarka basking in the mid winter sun driven out under it's own power for the first time in probably 60 years very proud been a task but got there with the help of many new friends cheers to all ”

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See the 300+ photos documenting Gary's restoration project here: https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?...8734966&type=3
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