Ram Tank photos

Jordan Baker · #1 28-06-05, 04:53

Here is a picture of a ram tank that I just received.

The sign in the background is partialy visiable. What I can read is "Beach/ Ranges/ ?...ators/ ?......ing"

ANyone recognize the background, could it be close to where that other Ram photo was taken. The one Im talking about is the one with the thrown track.

John McGillivray · #2 28-10-06, 14:59

http://www.virtualtoychest.com/barnyard/barnyard.html

servicepub (RIP) · #3 15-02-08, 16:11

I am looking for additional photos of the Ram, in all of its variants, in order to update www.RamTank.ca

All photos are gratefully received although I am especially interested in photos that show the CT number or the DND Registration number.

sapper740 · #4 15-02-08, 17:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by servicepub

I am looking for additional photos of the Ram, in all of its variants, in order to update www.RamTank.ca

All photos are gratefully received although I am especially interested in photos that show the CT number or the DND Registration number.

Clive, I have about 40 pics of Ram tanks in my library, most of which you are very likely familiar with, so rather than take up a lot of Jefe's RAM I'll give you a brief desccription of some of my pics. If any of them are of interest to you, I'll post them.

CT40444T A23 Loading onto M9 trailer
CT40712 CANMEC/CANMILITRY ENGLAND on CN rail car
CT39826 4 officers posing beside
CT39795 No gun, very short howitzer? Spigot mortar?
CT39807 Driver and Commander chin-wagging
CT39813 negotiating a ditch
CT39818 In shop, turret C22 laying on ground
Unknown Being pressure washed? painted? in field
"Bella" OP tank on rail car
CT39798 ARV

These are just a few of all the pics. Let me know if you're interested in descriptions of the others. Derek.

sapper740 · #5 15-02-08, 17:25

Clive, I've also got a pic of the Canadian 13 cent "Ram" stamp.

servicepub (RIP) · #6 15-02-08, 19:52

Derek,

I will take CT39818 as well as the pressure-wash (not sure but better safe than sorry). Many thnx,

Clive

sapper740 · #7 15-02-08, 21:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by servicepub

Derek,

I will take CT39818 as well as the pressure-wash (not sure but better safe than sorry). Many thnx,

Clive

My pleasure Clive. I just noted that I mislabeled one of the pics CT39818 in shop is actually CT39816. I do have a pic of CT39818 which I've included. Hope these pics are of use for you. Derek.

sapper740 · #8 17-03-08, 04:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by servicepub

I am looking for additional photos of the Ram, in all of its variants, in order to update www.RamTank.ca

All photos are gratefully received although I am especially interested in photos that show the CT number or the DND Registration number.

Two more pics that you may haven't seen before. Derek.

servicepub (RIP) · #9 17-03-08, 04:30

Derek,
Thanks for these two photos. Do you know where/when?

sapper740 · #10 17-03-08, 06:29

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Originally Posted by servicepub

Derek,
Thanks for these two photos. Do you know where/when?

Unfortunately not, I found these photos for sale on ebay, both with very generic descriptions. Derek.

Hanno Spoelstra · #11 17-03-08, 18:35

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Originally Posted by sapper740

Two more pics that you may haven't seen before.

Derek,

Indeed I have not - great find, thanks!

Hanno

sapper740 · #12 09-08-11, 04:00

I believe these are previously unpublished pics of Canadian Ram tanks taken in 1943. No hint as to location but could CACNTC be Canadian Armoured Corps National training Centre?

Cheers

Derek

sapper740 · #13 09-08-11, 04:02

It looks like the port for the main gun has been plated over in the one pic. Unfortunately, no further info regarding these pics.

Derek.

Roddy de Normann · #14 11-08-11, 10:36

Hi Sapper 740...

Nice pics - can you read the DND Numbers ? One looks like 41-1-36xx - can not quite get the resolution to read it clearly...

A8 I suspect is the Training School these are from...will look that up and reply further...

Many thanks for the pics

Roddy1011

Mark W. Tonner · #15 11-08-11, 14:52

Derek/Roddy1011;

To answer two questions:

Quote:

Originally Posted by sapper740

No hint as to location but could CACNTC be Canadian Armoured Corps National training Centre?

1. - what you are reading as CACNTC, is actually C.A.C.(A)T.C. = Canadian Armoured Corps (Active) Training Centre.

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Originally Posted by Roddy1011

A8 I suspect is the Training School these are from...

2. - Serial 1209 - A8 Canadian Armoured Corps Training Centre - authorized effective 15 February 1941, disbanded effective 1 September 1942 - localization: Camp Borden, Ontario. A8 Canadian Armoured Corps Training Centre, A9 Canadian Armoured Corps Training Centre (Serial 1210), and the Canadian Armoured Corps Training Group (Serial 561), were amalgamated to form Serial 1285 - A33 Canadian Armoured Corps Training Establishment, effective 1 September 1942 - localization: Camp Borden, Ontario. A33 Canadian Armoured Corps Training Establishment, was reorganized and redesignated The Royal Canadian Armoured Corps School, effective 1 October 1946 - localization: Camp Borden, Ontario.

Derek, good find, great photos!

Cheers

Roddy de Normann · #16 12-08-11, 11:05

Mark -

You beat me too it....

I have been searching for a number of years for listings of those tracked vehicles with Canadian serial numbers as opposed to the UK T numbers - have you had any luck ?

Roddy de Normann

david moore · #17 05-12-11, 04:56

This is a photo a friend gave me - her father posing with a Ram at Debert 1942 I believe. He was with the BC Regt (4th Arnd Div) en route to UK. Could also qualify for "in the background" Chev cab 12

servicepub (RIP) · #18 05-12-11, 15:32

Does anyone know who won the e-bay auction for the photos shown at the toip of this thread?

Ryan · #19 23-08-12, 13:50

On aussie ebay.
Are these unknown originals or have our canadian friends seen these before?
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/PHOTO-CAN...item2a21eb046e

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/PHOTO-CAN...item2a21eb2783

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/PHOTO-CAN...item2a21eb1083

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/PHOTO-CAN...item2a21eb1e1a

No connections

Hanno Spoelstra · #20 23-08-12, 14:15

Thanks Ryan,

Check www.ramtank.ca, I don't think these have been seen before.

Sadly it seems there are no indications of location, date, unit etc. But no doubt someone will identify the turret marking on CT-40100 (which incidentally, was the last Ram II built with sponson doors).

Most likely severe weather conditions led to these incidents.

H.

servicepub (RIP) · #21 23-08-12, 14:50

Roger Lucy's 200+ page book on the Ram is in the edit stage right now and I am busy placing photos in the text.
Hanno - Can I get a 300DPI scan of the latest photo?
Derek - I sent an e-mail about the Ram being crated, can I get a 300DPI scan of this also?

The book "The Compleat Ram" will be available early in the New Year.

Clive

Hanno Spoelstra · #22 23-08-12, 15:34

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Originally Posted by servicepub

Hanno - Can I get a 300DPI scan of the latest photo?

All I did was copy the picture on Ebay - make sure you win this auction. Let me know if you are not going to bid on it, I will have a go at it.

Quote:

The book "The Compleat Ram" will be available early in the New Year.

That's great news! Do you want me to proofread it?

H.

servicepub (RIP) · #23 23-08-12, 17:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hanno Spoelstra

That's great news! Do you want me to proofread it?

PM sent.
Clive

maple_leaf_eh · #24 23-08-12, 16:55

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Originally Posted by servicepub

Roger Lucy's 200+ page book on the Ram is in the edit stage right now and I am busy placing photos in the text.

Good for you and Roger. Looking forward to seeing it in hardcopy.

Mark W. Tonner · #25 23-08-12, 16:02

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Originally Posted by Hanno Spoelstra

Sadly it seems there are no indications of location, date, unit etc. But no doubt someone will identify the turret marking on CT-40100

Hanno, the dagger in the centre of the inverted triangle indicates that the tank in the photo belongs to "A" Squadron of one of the three army tank battalions of the 2nd Canadian Army Tank Brigade, with the photo itself having been taken in either Camp Borden or at the Meaford Tank Range sometime during their training, from the time of the brigade’s formation (January 1942) and their departure for the UK, in the spring of 1943.

This same 'dagger' was worn as a sleeve badge by units of the brigade in 1942/1943, much like the 'Ram' sleeve badge worn by units of the 1st Canadian Army Tank Brigade, in 1941/1942.

Cheers

Hanno Spoelstra · #26 24-08-12, 23:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark W. Tonner

Hanno, the dagger in the centre of the inverted triangle indicates that the tank in the photo belongs to "A" Squadron of one of the three army tank battalions of the 2nd Canadian Army Tank Brigade, with the photo itself having been taken in either Camp Borden or at the Meaford Tank Range sometime during their training, from the time of the brigade’s formation (January 1942) and their departure for the UK, in the spring of 1943.

This same 'dagger' was worn as a sleeve badge by units of the brigade in 1942/1943, much like the 'Ram' sleeve badge worn by units of the 1st Canadian Army Tank Brigade, in 1941/1942.

Thank you Mark, I knew you would chime in!

Hanno

sapper740 · #27 13-06-13, 09:23

My apologies if this pic has been previously posted: Here's the first ever Ram Cruiser tank produced at the Montreal Locomotive works which rolled out almost 72 years ago on June 30, 1941.

Roger Lucy · #28 13-06-13, 12:24

Interesting, I had seen the picture before, but not the caption indicating it was of the first Ram. Here it is on it's official roll-out at MLW on 30 June 1941, being inspected by CD Howe and Col.Ralston. It's pretty amazing, from a twinkle in DND's eye to the first prototype in a little under 10 months!

Hanno Spoelstra · #29 23-11-20, 13:27

In the early days after WW2 the Swiss Army museum at Thun had a Ram Tank on display.

This raises a few questions:

1) What was a Ram tank doing in Switzerland? Did they procure an example for testing after WW2?

2) As the Ram is no longer in the collection at Thun, who knows what happened to it? Expended as a range target?

Quote:

"Josiane Blaser: Posing on an M4 Shermann tank (sic). My dad at recruit school or rehearsal class.
He had attended his school from July 3, 1944 to October 28, 1944. ER II / 2 Cp mitr.IV. Then active service from January 6, 45 to March 27, 45."

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Source: https://notrehistoire.ch/entries/ELJYMkpQ85R

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Source: https://notrehistoire.ch/entries/XEVY79Xq8GL

sapper740 · #30 06-12-14, 16:34

Here are a few pics from a Star Weekly article dated July 11, 1942 showcasing Canada's new tank, the Ram Cruiser tank as it takes on a "flivver". Enjoy!

CHIMO! Derek