2008 at the Hammond Barn

[Mike Timoshyk]

Hey Bob,

You part-timing it as a contractor? I hear your in for some of the white stuff, perhaps the stripping of the plow-rig is a bit premee....

cheers

Mike in Sunny (dark) Windsor

[RHClarke]

Originally Posted by Bob Carriere

Finally see what happened to the beer!!!!.... all over the p(r)issteen environment of Hammond...Boob

Crikey Bob! I know we like to take photos of each other with a tool in our hand, but this is taking it to another (low) level. At least you got my good side. Good to see you expressing concern for the environment...

[Grant Bowker]

Mike,
Bob only clears snow for neighbours out of good will and hopes for payment in fine wine.
I'm the one who clears snow for (cash or cheque) profit in addition to other ventures. The ground has started to turn white but I expect it will all go away soon, once all the politicians return to Parliament Hill full of hot air (and little else of use). The Weather Network has backed off from their original estimate of up to 25 cm to a mere 1-3 cm for the duration of the storm. I'm still glad to not have to be standing out in the storm. wet snow and/or rain at about freezing is not much fun, but it could be worse (freezing rain).
Do you know of spare C60S (or C30, but it seems a shame to raid a rarer truck for parts frames in your part of the world

Grant

[RHClarke]

I spent some time on Saturday attending to the changing of tires on my van from the summer (all seasons) to winter/snow tires. In the process the floor model jack failed at the u-joint causing the jack to descend ever so slowly. No damage, just some consternation as to why the snow tires seemed larger this year...Ultimately, the problem was revealed, and Bob and I spent most of the morning fixing the floor jack. Bob, always the innovator, used a universal socket as a replacement, and it worked like a charm.

After that episode, we ran into Clive and his son, who were visiting Hammond to store Clive's vehicle. After some shelter re-arrangement, we adjourned to Chez Marie, which had won a reprive from closure. We do expect Chez Marie to close in November unless there is a "miracle".

After lunch, Bob continued with his quest to put in the wood for the winter. I managed to straighten out the cab frame rail enough to put in the two remaining bolts that fix the body to the frame.


Then the pax side step was put back into place. It was probably the only item on the HUP that was not damaged or worn...



Following this, the HUP was packed up and the shelter prepared for the oncoming winter. I will be away for most of November, so the block was drained of coolant, the cylinders fed a tsp of oil and the carb covered. Hopefully, there will be some fair weather in December when I should finally have some time to really get the reassembly fully underway...and pigs will fly.

[RHClarke]

[QUOTE=RHClarke;104640]


I was just browsing this thread when it hit me - the bumper on the HUP seems to be level! Previously, one end of the bumper was an inch and a quarter to two inches higher than the other. It is amazing what a ton of metal (the body) will do to a frame...or is it the Guinness?

[Bob Carriere]

..... aren't you sitting on what was the high side..... hihihi

[Geoff Winnington-Ball (RIP)]

[quote=RHClarke;105316]

Originally Posted by RHClarke

Just thinking, Rob.... you might have to increase the length of those propeller blades in order to get it to move under its own steam, and put in a stick to steer with.

Just a thought anyway...

[RHClarke]

Originally Posted by RHClarke

Just thinking, Rob.... you might have to increase the length of those propeller blades in order to get it to move under its own steam, and put in a stick to steer with. Just a thought anyway...

Geoff,

Thanks for the suggestion, but I think I will eventually use the traditional method of steering and propulsion. The white tips on the fan blades are the result of a short discussion with Phil Waterman, who painted his tips red (red to cover up the red markings that showed up unexpectedly). In both cases, the tips will serve as a reminder to me to keep my fingers out of the path of the fan blades when the old girl is purrin'.

Bob and Grant, Anything happening at the barn?

Oops! Got to go, it is almost 11:00 hrs here in Alberta...

We shall remember.

[Geoff Winnington-Ball (RIP)]

[quote=RHClarke;105524]

Originally Posted by Geoff Winnington-Ball

Geoff,

Thanks for the suggestion, but I think I will eventually use the traditional method of steering and propulsion. The white tips on the fan blades are the result of a short discussion with Phil Waterman, who painted his tips red (red to cover up the red markings that showed up unexpectedly). In both cases, the tips will serve as a reminder to me to keep my fingers out of the path of the fan blades when the old girl is purrin'.

Bob and Grant, Anything happening at the barn?

Oops! Got to go, it is almost 11:00 hrs here in Alberta...

We shall remember.

Rob,

Just a suggestion, no harm no foul...

We remembered today, at the Cenotaph at Old City Hall in Toronto. Sally joined me in this dank gray day to say a simple "Thank you". There weren't many vets there, but it's all my boss would allow me time off for. Still, I wore my beret and had the privilege of giving a salute at the appropriate times. It was worthwhile.

[RHClarke]

Bob, Grant, Is it that cold in the have not province that you can't type? What's been going on? Silence usually means you two are up to something...

I might be able to join you at the barn this weekend as my task out west ended early - pending the Frau's approval...

Anyway, fill us in on the Hammond scene - this traveling Rotter wants to know.

[RHClarke]

Finally, after two and a half weeks out west, I made my way back to the centre of the Ottawa CMP universe - Bob's barn in Hammond. Being out of practice, I forgot to bring my camera, but it was a short day, with not much going on. Bob was busy decorating the house with Joyce and Grant was a no show - probably work related absence there.

The morning was a cool minus 10oC with a good stiff wind making it feel like minus 18oC...just the right temp to fire up Lucifer. After finishing some housecleaning chores in the barn, I pulled out the HUP and started fitting the floor plates. All but two are bolted to the floor framework. The two that are not bolted were welded in the back corners of the cab - I cut them out to expose the floor frame which was badly rusted.

The first photo shows my HUP as she looked when I bought her.


The second photo shows the plate lay out.


The two welded plates (A) frame the large floor plate (B) that holds the transfer case shift lever and the fuel tank switch. Two other plates fill the foot wells (D). A smaller plate (C) fits around the gear shift lever, and a small plate fits to the right of the dog house (E).

The two welded plates have to be fitted in a particular manner as they are welded to the side pillers and if not square, will throw off the alignment of the adjoining plates. I took advantage of Bob's presence to get the plates welded in place. After which, I assisted Bob in the arranging of snow clearing lanes around the shelters and main access road. I truly hope we don't get that insane amount of snow this year as we did last year.

After some clean up, I headed home for a late lunch (Chez Marie is now in the history books...for shame).

[Bob Carriere]

.... the pictures you took with your new fangled telephone....?

Yes it was cold......... On Satruday I drove the tractor to the village...about 3 km..... and froze my...... face as I was sitting on the other end!!!

Boob

[RHClarke]

Originally Posted by Bob Carriere

.... the pictures you took with your new fangled telephone...Boob

My new fangled telephone has a limited memory (kinda like the folks I hang about with...). I will be uploading some army related photos for a later posting.

If I recall correctly, Bob, you were complaining it was too hot for a little while there on Sunday whilst welding...hee, hee.

[guyvapeur]

rob.........

A picture is worth a million words..........

Guy

[RHClarke]

Originally Posted by guyvapeur

rob......... A picture is worth a million words..........Guy

Guy

Looks great! Hopefully you can stop by the barn tomorrow morning...are you ready to take orders for other repros?

Rob

[RHClarke]

Originally Posted by Bob Carriere

.... the pictures you took with your new fangled telephone...

Bob, See att thumbs...

[RHClarke]

Originally Posted by RHClarke

Guy

... stop by the barn tomorrow morning...are you ready to take orders for other repros? Rob

Guy stopped by to deliver his first prototype of shifter lever cover. Looks good to me!


He also stopped by to help warm up the boys with a cuppa. Nice neighbours out Hammond way...



The rest of the morning involved clean up and snow management. Bob and Grant hooked up the sno-blower to the tractor, while Guy and I chatted about upcoming cut and sew jobs. After the chat, I put the HUP away and headed home for the 1300hr curfew...she got wind of the prototype in Cantly, and is watching me like a hawk, just in case...(reminds me, I have to check the lotto tickets).

[Bob Carriere]

.....very good pictures from that fancy Blueberry telephone......

....now you have you figured out how to use the telephone part...????

Boob

[sth65pac]

Hey Bob,

I am just going to show you & everyone else a nice Ford floor... We're warming up to 25C and I am getting 'on' with my F15A. Holidays soon & I will have my engine out & rebuilding..

Here is a pic or two, 2 hours wire brushing...
and then my favourite: primer... looks like five minutes, more like 5 hours.

Ian

[Bob Carriere]

Do all Ford floors have that diamond pattern.....? or is this a Aussie special....??? I am more familair with the dot & dash GM plates fo the early 40s....

...and was is that wooden block near the back wall......

5 hours is still pretty remarkable time.... I sandblasted mine and used two sets of floor plates to make one..... I had holes torched out... so we had to cut out patches taking care to line up the D&D pattern so they owuld be unnoticable........ I am pleased to say that Grant and I did a very good job.... the hard part is grinding extra weld bits with a die grinder trying to work around the D&D pattern and even rebuilding and reshaping some of the D&D.... just part of being mad.......

Wish we had some of your warm weather..... old man Winter has been relatively kind so far.......but rumors are it's coming!!!!!

BooB

[sth65pac]

Bob I dont know what is the 'right' floor. I think 42's have a diamond floor. have seen a dot & dash on a Chev... Tony Smith would know..Or My good friends Max, Mark, or Ashley.

Yes well we are blessed here with nice weather.. Tomorrow for me is (hopefully) the 'drabbing'/greening... Photos to follow (hope you dont mind me hijacking your thread, or anyone else mind...)

I am at a loss to know what the block in the cab is for, but its been there for a while. I have taken them out and will make new ones... maybe someone will know..Tonyyyyyyy???

There is an aircraft company near me, they can laser cut anything.. makes plate cutting super easy... I just cannot afford to use them yet... but heck it is a fancy machine.. If you can think up a hundred things we all need in mlu I will go see what they charge...

Summer brings me out and I work most days 17-19 hours.. (8 hrs at work) so I am hoping to get my truck done by March..(Corowa)

We have not had a sunny day in weeks. For summer it is very mild..

Gee I want that restaurant though..... Some nice ladies in there .

Back to the F15A................
& a roof pic to enjoy....


Ian

[Dale Law]

Hello Everyone,

My original 41 F15A Cab 12 has the dash-dot plate. I would suspect one company made it and was used by the other whether it be Ford or GM.

Regards,
Dale

[cliff]

The diamond pattern as shown was used on Australian built Fords.

[Keith Webb]

Originally Posted by cliff

The diamond pattern as shown was used on Australian built Fords.

Cliff is spot on. I think it's called railway plate.

Of course this applies to Australian cab 13 Fords as we fully imported cab 12s. The Chev cab 13s built here by Holden had smooth thin floors.

As for the wooden blocks you'll find they are spaced to fit the side curtain lugs.

[Bob Carriere]

...........As for the wooden blocks you'll find they are spaced to fit the side curtain lugs.

That makes a lot of sense..... although I do not ever recall having seen them in Canadian CMP trucks.......

Boob

PS...... Ian you are not hijacking anything....please feel free to post any and all....

[Phil Waterman]

Hi Bob and Ian

Ian you mentioned "There is an aircraft company near me, they can laser cut anything.. makes plate cutting super easy... I just cannot afford to use them yet... but heck it is a fancy machine.. If you can think up a hundred things we all need in mlu I will go see what they charge... " as a way of cutting the floor plate as alternative to that or to acetylene torch cutting I used a small plasma cutter to cut all my floor plates and found it to be a very use-able tool.

See http://www.canadianmilitarypattern.c...MetalWork.html about half way down the page. I even cut 10 inch section out of the drop side body that I fitted to my Pattern 12. In the pictures below you can see a bit of that process. You'll note in some of the pictures that there is a added fan and even a cover over the Plasma unit to extend its duty cycle by adding more cooling.

[colin jones]

Hi Phil, better let you know that someones got there foot on the brake pedal in pic 2. Don't want you flatten your battery
Colin.

[RHClarke]

At the barn this morning, it was minus 5oC with a stiff wind. We got some very fluffy snow for a while until it warmed up. The sun actually made an appearance until noon when it clouded over.

The weather has changed, but the barn is as busy as ever. Grant worked on his engine, Bob was collecting waste oil for Lucifer, Guy dropped in for a chat, and I played with the HUP. We all took a break to restock the inside firewood crib next to Lucifer, and then got back to the business at hand.

I spent most of the morning working on the floor plates. I reattached the floor mounted handle (commonly referred to as the "Oh, J**** C***** bar"):







Bob was press ganged into doing some welding for me - we attached a fabbed up replacement clip on the floor plate (attachment point for one of the dog house hold down clips). No photos were taken (memory, the second thing to go...).

After a very expensive lunch at Mike's Place in Hammond, we got back at the fun and games. Bob and Grant spent some quality time adjusing the settings on Grant's engine head. I'm not sure what Bob is doing to that engine, but it seemed to help...



I ended the day trying to fit the fenders to the rear of the HUP and with a little help from my friends, finally figured out which fender went on the correct side...not as easy and one would think. We test fit the first fender, and Bob, ever the observant one, opined that maybe the frame had arched up causing it not to fit. Grant spotted the problem - the inside frame to which the fender attaches was warped. A few swings of a hammer later, on she went.



Here's what the fender looked like (from the rear - the front of the fender was racked and bent as well) when I bought the HUP:



Next week, I'll pull the fender off, install fender welt and some spray on undercoating. With the sun slowly setting, I made my way back to the home of the Three Stooges and the Grinch who stole Parliament from them...

[RHClarke]

Should be an easy one - what CMP part caused this outline? Bob, you have been disqualified...

[sth65pac]

Originally Posted by Phil Waterman

See http://www.canadianmilitarypattern.c...MetalWork.html about half way down the page. I even cut 10 inch section out of the drop side body that I fitted to my Pattern 12. In the pictures below you can see a bit of that process. You'll note in some of the pictures that there is a added fan and even a cover over the Plasma unit to extend its duty cycle by adding more cooling.

Phil,
You're welcome to drop your plasma cutter at my place (just the little prob of weight & distance...)

I can make....late model lifting rings, hatch catch profiles, toolbox brackets, pioneer tool holders ... now back to the anvil, fire and hammers...

And the 'greening' has begun... Unlike you poor blokes.. Summer is here & painting is a breeze. I did my St*FF SH*T handle about 12 weeks ago.. I will get to enjoy the 'joys' of engine rebuilding shortly..