New Member from the UK - Page 4

Ron Pier · #91 12-05-09, 13:22

That's it now Richard! No more pictures till she arrives. Where abouts are you located? I think I might have forgotten! Ron

RichardT10829 · #92 12-05-09, 14:23

Cullercoats.

just had an email from the shipper saying the driver is charging for an extra 3 hours as the carrier needed secured properly...... hope this is not a trend for things to come. the carrier is pretty much jammed in there and the straps are cross format front and rear with the extra strap over the top i cannot fathom how it would take 3 hours to add one or two clicks per rachet strap. $195.00 onto my bill ! cant afford many extra costs like this.

kevin what is the situation when being billed, do you get invoiced when it hits UK soil, and if so what is the time scale to finalise the bill ?

cheers

Rich

RichardT10829 · #93 13-05-09, 09:09

well all is clear now, spoke to Rob late last night it appears that after loading the driver set off but returned 30 minutes later saying there was banging from the back of the container, doors opened to find a carrier had broken six 5 tonne straps, it appears they forgot to chock the wheels and somehow all six straps have failled. lots of paint scrapes and a small dint in the container doors. carrier has been tied down with chains and turnbuckles and wedges put in place second time round. so lesson is make sure the wheels are chocked if using webbing straps (irrespective of load capabilities)

Rich

tankbarrell · #94 13-05-09, 09:19

Tracked vehicles with suspension but tracks not fitted are always a problem to secure. The suspension movement allows the straps or chains to loosen enough to set up a rocking at the same time and momentum does the rest!

I have found with tanks in similar condition it is sometimes best to jack up and block the hull to relieve the suspension of some weight.

Ledsel · #95 13-05-09, 11:14

Mostly a problem with a boneheaded trucker. Nobody gives a s@#$%^t anymore. That guy must have been flying!!

RichardT10829 · #96 13-05-09, 20:37

yes it must have been some sudden or harsh breaking followed by foot to the floor, it has ripped one of the towing eyes out of the hull on the front, bent the front fenders onto the idler wheels and added a coat of paint onto the carrier.

it is now chained in and a full setup to chock / shore the wheels in situ.

fingers crossed, we will see how bad it is when she comes home

Rich

Ledsel · #97 13-05-09, 22:29

Just had a great thought, ( don't get those too often ) Why not put it through your trucking company's insurance? Just tell them it was a fully restored carrier when it was picked up. Those A-h#les deserve it after charging you more money to re-ty it down. P.S. They will probably try to charge you for damage to the container too.

The more people I meet the more I like my cat.

RichardT10829 · #98 20-05-09, 13:35

hahahaha good idea Ledsel i can say it rusted up as a result of the shock

Rob sent me some photo's of the bits, it was nice to see a cardboard box filled with linkages and some strange peices, i will post it up and we can play "guess the component" game

there are some very questionable track pins in there too.

On the rear deck pannel there appears to be some sort of square frame made from right angle ? and one exhaust sheild is solid where as the other is the mesh type ?

and the box of bits.

i can see track pins, part of a steering linkage, and a service cover plate from the bottom of the hull (but which one ?)

what are the rest folks ?

Ledsel · #99 20-05-09, 14:29

hahahaha good idea Ledsel i can say it rusted up as a result of the shock
It's the salt water damage.

RichardT10829 · #**100** 20-05-09, 15:10

it may be wishfull thinking but the long peice looks like a fuel dipstick.....pretty rare i believe, like i say wishfull thinking

Ledsel · #**101** 20-05-09, 15:39

It is part of the gas tank strap the egg shaped pieces on the right are fuel drain patches for the hull floor and the square piece on the left is a fuel tank hold down bracket.

Jordan Baker · #**102** 20-05-09, 17:22

The square angled piece on the sheet metal deck is the bracket to hold the jack block. The exhuast covers are supposed to be like that. One is solid since the tarp sits on it a bit. Underneath the sheet metal is asbestos. The other is just open mesh style since no tarp.

RichardT10829 · #**103** 04-06-09, 09:23

well its D day (D for delivery) time 0830, HGV due in 30 minutes, stressed to bits got all the tools ready to go, fingers crossed the transfer goes without incident and i have some happy pictures to add in a couple of hours........

wish me luck.

Rich

gordon · #**104** 04-06-09, 10:09

... they always look better in the pictures, they do, really.

I haven't been home to see my K-38 yet either, but I know it is at the farm in one piece.

Gordon

RichardT10829 · #**105** 04-06-09, 13:19

right job done !! i feel drained with the stress, we had a drop of 12" between the container and the recovery truck so we had to relocate...... managed to pull her out what a S*** Heap was mentioned by many, they just cant see what i can, found some bits more worse than i expected but also found 99% of the linkages in workable condition so happy days ! the cover off the cam plate has disintergrated and is knackered so i will try my best to peice the bits back together and make a pattern for those that want them. managed to free up 90% of the seized track with a couple of "Wollops" with the hammer, going to strip them into sections and stack them up.

a few pics to follow in due course, but a cup of tea is in order about now

Rich

RichardT10829 · #**106** 04-06-09, 16:23

some pics of it in the UK, got to unload into my garage (the easy part really) ian comes back later after work with the truck.

started to break the track into section, these two sections were from the bottom of the track (against the ground) which has not been moved for seven years !! one broke up really easy but the other one....nearest to the wall looks to be in a bad way.

seem pretty straight though

colin jones · #**107** 04-06-09, 23:02

Richard, Good luck with your project. I'm sure you will find the parts you need with the MLU network. What you have is a great start.
Regards.
Colin.

Lynn Eades · #**108** 05-06-09, 09:43

Soak your track in oil, while your working on other parts of it. go back to it later, and with a pair of pry bars poked into consecutive tooth holes, try working the links on the pins. Once you have them all moving, put the track away to drain. I used hydraulic oil, and it worked a treat for me.
P.S. You look very young.

RichardT10829 · #**109** 05-06-09, 11:00

hahahahaha not bad for 65 !! just kidding no that is my eldest son 9 years old, i started early saying i am only 29 myself

brought my old man around who was strangly teary when he saw the carrier became very nostalgic but his words were true

"this machine was in service the same time as your grandad / my dad, was in service driving the same type of machine" wonder where he would have been when this one was born in 1942 (still training in Inneskillen i reckon)

I sprayed some ptfe between the links and but a shaped bar on the floor, i then used the hammer to pursuade the more stubbord links to move which worked.

i have heard AT fluid is great for eating rust, i was going to make a bath of the stuff to sit the sections of track into. looking at some of the pins the track may well need re pinned dont know, but that stage is a while away yet anyway.

will attach a few more pics to this post when i upload them.

first time the carrier has touched UK soil is my garage floor, used the tilt and slide straight in....

This is my mothers garage which she does not use, and it still has my block and tackle etc etc from my rally x days. my garage is now a machine shop for working on the components / engine etc etc

Rich

ron · #**110** 05-06-09, 11:52

Hi Richard,
Congratulations, glad to see that you have the old girl safe and sound on British soil, We will watch your progress over the coming months with interest, I am sure that if you need any help with your project that you will find it here, welcome to the carrier owners club,
Regards Ron

Lynn Eades · #**111** 05-06-09, 11:55

I would get those heat shields off there, and bag them up. You dont want any of your family breathing that asbestos.

RichardT10829 · #**112** 05-06-09, 11:59

Indeed i noticed that it was starting to break up on one pannel so will get it covered up asap, was considering getting rid and using a ceramic repro, not sure yet though.

Rich

kevin powles · #**113** 05-06-09, 23:01

Well done, the waitings over, you look like you are going to be busy with that carrier, best thing is start to preserve what you have, drop the rear boggies refurbish them like new, strip the chassis, put on a couple of castor wheels on the front, put your rear boggies back on and wheel it down to be shot blasted, zinc prime it and begin the restoration.

that way your not looking at a lot of rust everytime you walk in the garage and it wont degrade further.

will send you an e-mail shortly, whats happening in september?.

well done rich, will try and get more details on that other carrier for you.

cheers kev.

RichardT10829 · #**114** 05-06-09, 23:20

is there not a show in Arnhem in September ?

i took the heat sheilds off, they were really badly broken up, i went a bit ott and wore a mask and full paper suit. anyway they are off and bagged up. suit and gloves have been burnt.

i took the heads off the engine to have a look see, poored some AT fluid down the pots and ran it in around the valves etc etc, took the carb off which is full of stones and grit / plus its pretty much seized up solid.

basically just removing bits to get access and sprayed more penetrating oil than any man should in one day, just putting it on now to help when i need the parts off without snapping the bits.

the box of loose bits consits of shot track pins and the cover plates, plus some linkage peices which are going for a soak in the ultrasonic bath.

one of the rear bogie wheels has a section of the rim snapped out its about 3mm deep and 4cm long. once i have removed majority of the weight i will pull all the wheels and susp units my theory being at this point it will be easier to move on the jacks i have (2.5 tonne jacks)

found a few goodies lying in the hull stuff like the rear convoy lamp etc etc

sat in the back of the hull staring with a big smile on my face for like two hours ! bit overwhelmed but in a good way, this girl is going to need some work, but so far other than everything being damned heavey and seized up she looks easier than the plethera of minis i have done over the years.

confirmed that the lower hull number is 10131 which appears to have too many digits and does not appear in Nigels lists however 1013 does show as "missing" hahahahaha could i have a "ringer"

not sure if i should start a rebuild thread or just continue on here with my progress ?

thanks for all the help so far guys it is really appreciated

Rich

S LATHERON (RIP) · #**115** 05-06-09, 23:42

Good Day Richard
Wow that is a project and a half.
That will be a real head turner along the sea front out to St Marys Lighthouse on a summer evening.
I realise it is early days, but have you finalised in your mind the colour scheme that will best fit the service life the carrier needs to represent.
All the best with the rebuild.Will follow the results with much interest.
Stephen

RichardT10829 · #**116** 06-06-09, 11:02

well unless i turn something up from the carriers hull number (which is missing from the lists) i will make her a direct copy of my grandads. i want so badly to do her in the caunter pattern but dont think my grandads regiment used this. unless i can trace the CT number she will be re assigned T10829 sorry if this is perverse or incorrect but it was my grandads carrier.