2008 at the Hammond Barn

[Bob Carriere]

Caption for this picture is......

.... we were trolling with a 6 inch hook soaked in 10w30 and look at what we caught.......

....had to string it up to the tractor to gut it......


Or the truth be known....... Grant wanted to sweep all the pin needles and dirt out of the box...... and I wanted to examine the floor underneath without bending over........ scrungy but very complete and original.... floor pannel is very solid..... landing leg is missing..... Clive will need one eventually.

Everything now resting by the barn awaiting the erection....ahem I mean the assembly of the canvass Winter shelter.

Boob

[RHClarke]

Originally Posted by Bob Carriere

Rob is known for reusing old bolts...... he cleans them, scrub them.... polished and oiled......

In fact when he is too bothersome we save cans of old bolts and throw them in the yard..... keeps him busy all afternoon pickin' up treasures......


Just could not resist.

Boob

Bob, I knew you were tossing them away for a reason!

Ian, I learned from one of the best to never throw anything CMP away. However, I use new fasteners whenever safety becomes an issue (like tranny or drive train bolts), which is tough on us wee lads of Scottish heritage.

[Bob Carriere]

Well we did the most of it......

Last recovery trip for Clive's jeep we noticed that some fo the spot welds on the fendaers had worked loose and things were a shakin'

Late last Sunday Grant and I remove one frmder and concluded it would be better to replace them...... off they went.

Got new fenders from Princess and found some 1/8 satin coat leftover sheets at the back of the barn.

So we spent all day Saturday and a good part of Sunday designing and fabricating fenders that will be stronger and removeable if we need to get a large load on board... like a C60 with flat front tires..... which is probably what stretched the fenders in the first place.

Lots of cutting, fitting, welding but we got it done.. the plasma cutter realy shined at work like this......

We encountered some probles starting the spark on the mig welder particualrly at low heat..... turn out one of the main cable inside the welder was very loose..... need to check things once in a while after 3 years of used.... once thightened worked like a charm.

Pictures attached show the bare frame....... fenders will be removed and the whole trailer sand blasted and repainted a shiny OD such as 24087. at a later date.... with all new wiring.

Thanks to Grant and Rob for providing the quality control tests to see if the fenders could handle dead weight or occasionally being walked on when loading..

They stood up the test....

They are now hanging in the barn..... having been degreased and phosphated in preparation to 2 coats of POR 15..... a special primer binding coat and 2 coats of shiny OD......might even had some tac signs.....

Boob

[RHClarke]

The morning was rainy and somewhat gloomy at 14oC. That did not deter the Hammond Air Corps...I spent about an hour test fitting my floor plates.



Things looked real good until I played around with my dog house. It took a few minutes of trying to figure why it did not fit properly when the obvious struck - the driver's side of the frame where the front of the dog house rests against has a semi circular bulge. You can see the bulge on the frame and on Grant's dog house in the next photo.



So, I checked a Ford dog house to see if there was a great difference - there was. I remembered that I had another dog house sitting on Grant's truck frame. While trying to wrestle it out the tent, I noticed Grant's doghouse looked a little different - it had the corresponding rounded part on the lower right hand side. Grant arrived shortly thereafter and the swap was on. We had noted in passing that our dog houses didn't fit, but we knew that a good body man could fix that. Sometimes the solution is right under your nose.

Bob and Grant did an outstanding job of fabbing up new fenders for the treasure-hauler. Here are some close ups of their work:





While the boys finished the fenders, I got to play with the HUP. I wanted to see if all the work on the front clip would cause some problems with the fit on the body. With the help of the boys, we wired the clip on the front of the body. The damned thing almost looks like a truck now! And, it fit (although some minor mods are required).





Following that fun, I got to work on shaping my round hatch spacer. Not bad for a first go - photos later - forgot to take some photos as it was near lunch time and Chez Marie beckoned.

After lunch, we decided to tidy up. There was a ton of sawdust (including some leftover from the headliner spacer project). Grant and I swept the barn from west to east and then called it quits. Next week, it looks like we will be on the road to Barrie. Hope to see some of you "southerners" at the automotive flea market...cheers!

[RHClarke]

The Hammond Trio returned from the Barrie Flea Market late last night. We headed out to Barrie on Thursday afternoon and strolled the grounds from 8:00 to just after 3PM on Friday. This year we took in the whole venue including the dreaded Area B. We have now reached that sense of CMP awareness that helps filter out distractions (mostly, there was one young lady who couldn't afford a shirt that covered her "considerable" assets - Bob is still agog...). In the main, our focus allowed us to by pass the incredible selection of stuff found there and to zone in on CMP treasures.

Some of the treasures I found:

Ford Cab 13 grill in great shape - $10

Prototype HUP (just guessing here - photos tomorrow) pax side door window and frame (in rough shape) - $10

Refurbished 45 licence plate (beauty job) - $25.00 - pairs were going for $50

Chev Horn - $5

Speedo cable - $5

Elusive but evidently still available CMP tool box (filled with modern tools) - $5

The boys can add their finds if so inclined to do so.

Bottom line, it was a hellishly hot, muggy day of picking the "pepper out of the fly sh*t". But, worth the trip!

[Geoff Winnington-Ball (RIP)]

Originally Posted by RHClarke

..... there was one young lady who couldn't afford a shirt that covered her "considerable" assets - Bob is still agog...

uurrgghh....

[RHClarke]

Originally Posted by Geoff Winnington-Ball

uurrgghh....

What can I say? Forgot the camera. In any case, it would have been a toss up which to photograph, the obviously altered mounds of female flesh, or Bobbie's face...

[Rod Diery]

Originally Posted by RHClarke

What can I say? Forgot the camera. In any case, it would have been a toss up which to photograph, the obviously altered mounds of female flesh, or Bobbie's face...

Who cares about Bobbies face, just give us the obviously altered mounds, etc, etc.

[RHClarke]

Originally Posted by Rod Diery

Who cares about Bobbies face, just give us the obviously altered mounds, etc, etc.

I did not have the camera with me, so I will attempt to reconstruct the scene -imagine two bald men trying to push their heads through a sweater top at the same time (and yes, they were facing forward as I could clearly see their "noses"...).

[Bob Carriere]

I know boring.... but at least with the windows we can do something with it..

Monsewer Clarke dug up the following .... alledged... CMP window.... seems to fit a cab 13 on the left passenger side.... sliding windows similar to the late 45 HUP.....

it is sloped backward similar to a cab 11/12 but is too long to fit in the door/window opening......

In one of the pictures I inserted bubbles to show the 3 screw studs that are angled forward like the frame of a standard cab 13...... and it has evidence that it was bolted onto the door flat edge with the slope backwards...

Any one has any idea what is was intended for..... Brian...??? and early experimental HUP model....???

It has the right height to fit in the cab 13 window opening.....

Puzzled...?

Boob
........for Rob Clarke..

[RHClarke]

Originally Posted by Bob Carriere

Monsewer Clarke dug up the following .... alledged... CMP window.... seems to fit a cab 13 on the left passenger side.... sliding windows similar to the late 45 HUP...

Marci, Monsewer Gravel Pit,

I wish to add to the observations of the Senior Hammond CMPer. The sliding window has the same "handle" arrangement as my 45 HUP - a basic bar that the end of the sliding glass fits into fitted with a small "bar" offset at 90 degrees that acts as the handle (see Bob's "bubble" photo). The size of the "square" glass rear slider is similar to my HUP's glass. The guides are the same, the screws and their spacing are the same - except for the sloped forward part.

I am not sure if it will fit Brian Gough's prototype HUP, but it may be worth a trip down south to find out...or maybe, just maybe it could be the start of a new project (which will make my 45 HUP look easy).

[RHClarke]

Since Bobbie is touring southern Ontario, and Grant tends to keep quiet, I'll post to this thread from Asia. No CMPs reported, but there may be some cars around here with CMP DNA.

Bangkok is an interesting place - lots of people, rain, cars, trucks, motorcycles, buses, tuk-tuks, bicycles and elephants! That's right, elephants, and like most other forms of transport here, they too have "exhaust" of epic proportions. That's the poop from Siam!

I am looking forward to the next Rotter post...

[Grant Bowker]

Saturday didn't rain as forecast, so Bob and I spent time replacing the chimney collar on the barn to keep out rain, snow and critters. The old one had been destroyed during the winter's snows. Next project was finishing off the fenders on the recovery trailer. They are now painted and mounted, removable to load wider vehicles (or flat tired CMPs). The licence plate was also relocated to a frame mounted bracket to ease fender removal. The full refurbishment of the trailer is on hold (sandblast, paint OD, rewire). After Lunch Clive arrived to clean the pine needles out of his Jeep and erect a shelter for the Jeep. Ground was levelled and the Princess Auto (made in China with cryptic instructions) shelter was erected. This one is wider but not as tall as the others, better suited for Jeeps than CMPs. They also made the roof and sides as one tarp and provided bars along the sides near ground level.
A few more minor items and it was declared beer time.
No photos because Bob was the official photographer and I'v now sent him on a recce for more rusty old trucks. I'd prefer them not to be rusty but that doesn't seem to happen here. Actually, Bob is performing family duties but can anyone imagine him not looking for CMPs if the opportunity presents?

[Bob Carriere]

.... before we head off to CC 7


Two photos of where Clive's Jeep and trailer now resides.....

The shelters are from Princess.... 10x20 but not really high enough for a C 15a CMP....... but very appropriate for a Jeep..... Clive's original trailer is acrually stored behind the Jeep sideways.

Not having yet installed some wooden beam that will allow to lag bolt the shelter to the ground CLive was cautioned to tie down the canvass shelter to the Jeep itself....... NOTE... must remind Clive to untie the rope before driving the Jeep out of the shelter....

It keeps it nice and dry.....

BooBee

[Grant Bowker]

Clive's shelter is actually 12Wx8Hx20L, the 10x10x20 ones that are covering my C15A and 2K1 wireless body (body is not mounted on the truck, it wouldn't come close to fitting heightwise) will be on sale at Princess for $200 (actually $199.99 if the penny matters anymore) June 24 to July 13. A couple of years ago when I bought mine, they ran out in about 2 days.

[RHClarke]

Grant, Thanks for posting the "Hammond News". Aside from watching the grass grow and taking notes on Clive's jeep knitting technique, was there any real CMP progress? I know that you and Bob were scheduled to go to CC and look forward to some reports later today - I will be peeking in and out from the lounge in Beijing (AKA Peking for the pun challenged). Got to say, the cabin crew from Thai Airway are polite, friendly, and the girls are lovely. I think Air Canada should hire some of them - think of the weight savings...

I will be back in Canada a little too late for CC, so any photos would be appreciated!

[Grant Bowker]

Yesterday morning we had a guest at the barn, GuyVapeur dropped in with some of his latest garage sale / flea market finds. The attached photos show one of the boxes he brought for us to puzzle over. The box is 12 x 5-5/8 x 7-3/8 inches with a stamped topbut otherwise folded construction. All joints are riveted. There is a row of relief holes in the main part of the case along the hinge line to receive the projecting ends of the rivets that secure the piano hinge. the handle is 1 inch webbing, attached by rivets. Although it looks crude at first glance, it makes sense to have the folded over ends exposed and the smooth (as opposed to split/rough) end of the rivets to the bottom. Doing it this way makes a smoother, more comfotable handle for carrying the box. There was no sign that there had been dividers or fitted blocks inside the case to hold a specific object. The general standard of workmanship on the case is quite good. (not the common "unskilled workers for the war effort" often seen)
None of us know the purpose of the box, but we are hoping others may have suggestions.

[Brian Gough]

Hi Grant,

Nice find. I have a box like that although the height measures 7 7/8".

Stamped on the front, below the latch, in 5/8" letters is:

CHEST, AMMUNITION
CAL 50, M17
D39091


Cheers,

Brian

[Grant Bowker]

The box remains the property of Guy, he seems to have a talent for spotting "green objects of interest". The dimensions I gave were more or less interior dimensions for the main part of the box, adding for the depth of the lid would make your box and Guy's almost identical in size. This box didn't seem to have evidence of stamping or embossing, or seem to have enough paint to hide all traces of it. It could easily be for the same use or be a similar box for another purpose. Thank you for the clue.
Grant

Originally Posted by Brian Gough

Hi Grant,

Nice find. I have a box like that although the height measures 7 7/8".

Stamped on the front, below the latch, in 5/8" letters is:

CHEST, AMMUNITION
CAL 50, M17
D39091


Cheers,

Brian

[guyvapeur]

I have closely examined the box and have worked on it to bring out any lettering that might be found.

I found no stampings on the box..... I have not yet uncovered every square inch.

I have however cut through the top layer of black paint on the front of the box which has revealed some stencilling in about 3/4 block letters.

I can read **Chest AMMUNTION**
CAL. 50 ????
D39091
A rust mark after 50..... blots out the letters/numbers.

****************Edited to show correct stencilling on box......****************

That's it so far.

Guy

[RHClarke]

It was a fine long weekend in Hammond (there will be some activity on Dominion Day, but I won't be there, but in Merrickville with the S&P gang). On the weekend, Grant, Bob and I attended to some small tasks while the rain came down. Guy Vapeur stopped by (see above threads) and sold off some of his finds. We hope to see more of Guy in the future with a view to forming the "Hammond Quartet"...Lunch at Chez Marie was as good as usual and fortified us for the afternoon fun and games.

When it wasn't raining, we loaded my HUP on the trailer for the Monday run to the muffler shop in downtown Orleans (east end of Ottawa). Bob left the barn early to sort out some windows for his rear deck. I parted company around 2:30 PM as the heat and humidity peaked.

Today (Monday), saw Bob and I running the HUP to the shop. We ditched the HUP and had breakfast at the Cozy Nest in Orleans - I know, it's sort of cheating on Chez Marie, but a change is as good as a rest...Back at the barn, the sun broke cover and we decided to do some sandblasting. Bob cleaned up his front end sheet metal and I got my doghouse and a small floor plate cleaned up. Duty called me home for some work related telephone calls, and I met Bob at the muffler shop later that afternoon to retrieve the HUP. After paying Dan the Muffler Man for his good work, Bob hauled the HUP back to Hammond, where we off-loaded and called it a day. The heavens opened up just as we put the HUP back into its shelter. Many thanks, Bob. It is good to have friends who share the same interests, and more importantly, friends who have a truck and trailer. Bob's time and effort were very much appreciated! Now I have no excuse for putting the body on the frame, except maybe a second coat of paint - if it ever stops raining here.

Thumbnail sequence: Bob in his office/Bob sandblasting/My doghouse before/during/after primer.

[RHClarke]

As mentioned, Dan the Muffler Man had his hands all over my HUP's frame today. The fellows at the shop were quite impressed with the HUP, thinking it would make a good swamper or off-road/rock crawler... Bob mentioned that the good folks of Orleans were somewhat baffled with his trailer load - being good liberals, they shook with fear when they caught a glimpse of the the OD paint and immediately went home and called their MPs to demand a cut in the defence budget...fortunately, we don't have a thief, er, liberal MP, so we should be OK for the time being.

The thumbnails show the HUP waiting for the trip perched up on Bob's trailer, and a shot of the new pipes.

[Alex Blair (RIP)]

Originally Posted by RHClarke

As mentioned, Dan the Muffler Man had his hands all over my HUP's frame today. The fellows at the shop were quite impressed with the HUP, thinking it would make a good swamper or off-road/rock crawler... Bob mentioned that the good folks of Orleans were somewhat baffled with his trailer load - being good liberals, they shook with fear when they caught a glimpse of the the OD paint and immediately went home and called their MPs to demand a cut in the defence budget...fortunately, we don't have a thief, er, liberal MP, so we should be OK for the time being.

The thumbnails show the HUP waiting for the trip perched up on Bob's trailer, and a shot of the new pipes.

Rob..
Nice job..Just an observation that will save you some vexation down the road..
Turn your muffler clamps 90 Degrees so that the nuts can be easily accessed once the body is on..A rookie mistake but easily fixed at this point..do it before they become heated and the metal atains new memory..
..
Retighten after a couple of hours run time..

[RHClarke]

Originally Posted by Alex Blair

Rob..
Nice job..Just an observation that will save you some vexation down the road..
Turn your muffler clamps 90 Degrees so that the nuts can be easily accessed once the body is on..A rookie mistake but easily fixed at this point..do it before they become heated and the metal atains new memory..
..
Retighten after a couple of hours run time..

Alex,

Sage advice. Dan the Muffler Man placed the clamps tits-up to remind me to tighten them once I am happy with the final positioning. He left some wiggle room if I didn't like the set up - a real pro, our Dan. Prior to the great "mating" of body and frame, I will adjust the clamps just so.

By the way, it is good to "hear" from you - it seems we lost you for a spell (or maybe I should venture out of the Resto Forum more often...),

[RHClarke]

My son Jesse and I made the trek out to Kars to visit Mike (AKA Gunner) and his kabal of re-enactors. The S&P convoy was augmented by the Iltis Club of Ottawa (some proudly wearing their Rotters hat), and a few free-lancers, including a family from Montreal. It was quite the convoy to Merrickville and then to Kemptville. Hopefully Mike can list off all of the trucks/guns.

Jesse and I spent the afternoon with one of my army buds, Paul and his two boys. The parade went well with only one breakdown (prior to the parade start). The six pounder salutes at the end of O Canada and God Save the Queen were notable for their subdued "woofs". I guess times are a-changing, eh, Mike?

After the parade, Jesse joined a few of Ottawa's best re-enactors for a small break in the back of the museum's C8. The Merrickville show was quite nice (we missed the Kemptville show) - well done, Mike and company.

[Gunner]

Hi Rob:

Thanks for the kudos! Sorry I was off feeding monsters (read: teenagers) when you had to go so I missed saying goodbye!

It was a great day and I'll post a detailed after action review (AAR) in the events section.

Mike

[RHClarke]

Today, we had the pleasure of hosting Gordon Yeo and his cousin (sorry, mate - I forgot to write down your name...) from Manotick. Guy Vapeur also made an appearance. The entourage took the royale tour of Bob’s empire and then we headed down to Chez Marie for a bite to eat. Curious thing, the food was free for the Hammond gang…Gordon was first off the mark after brunch and picked up the tab. You may have started a dangerous precedent there Gordon!

After brunch, Bob worked on his arches, while Grant hammered out a repetative tune on his truck roof. I satisfied my CMP urge by cutting back some growth around my shelter and by the Dodge truck park - where a new (to me) stablemate will soon join them...more to follow!

[RHClarke]

Not to be outdone by the liberals "Green Shift", the Hammond Trio saddled up for our shortest ever recovery road trip to shift our own green monster. This trip took us out to the west end of the Nepean portion of Ottawa - the last vestige of civilization before hitting Kanata.

I decided that my life was not complicated enough, so I bought a '55 Dodge Ambulance from a fellow S&P volunteer. The truck is mostly complete with some missing bits and a need for an engine rebuild. Between Jesse's radio van and this ambulance, we should be able to come up with one working 3/4 ton truck. I kinda like the Dodge as it was the first military vehicle I ever drove (back in the day when my arms were just as thin as the steering wheel spokes).

Many thanks to Bob Carriere for volunteering his diesel pickup and trailer, and Grant for his attention to detail and safety. We moved the truck back to Hammond in short order with only one OPP officer giving us quizical looks...I hope to start tearing it down in the next few weeks after my next trip overseas.

Here is a shot of my new "baby":

[Geoff Winnington-Ball (RIP)]

Originally Posted by RHClarke

I decided that my life was not complicated enough, so I bought a '55 Dodge Ambulance from a fellow S&P volunteer.

Rob, put in a propane beer fridge and dress Gracies Girls up as nurses, an' we're good-to-go!

[RHClarke]

Originally Posted by Geoff Winnington-Ball

Rob, put in a propane beer fridge and dress Gracies Girls up as nurses, an' we're good-to-go!

Geoff, There is no sense in trying to cool the beer in Hammond. It rarely gets any fridge time. As for the nurses, well, if they dress up like Faith Hill does in her "The Way You Love Me" video, then OK.

Unfortunately, the frau saw this post and reserves the right to pick the nurses - she mentioned that it was a good thing I have a 3/4 ton trailer to transport the other one...

I think I will concentrate on the HUP when I get back from Africa...