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14-06-07, 19:54
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this machine just seems too sophisticated for the average bush engineer. Those final drives mounted to the hull sides are not something anyone would just make up or even find lying about. Are you sure it's not a Vickers Light tank? Cheers, Dave 
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15-06-07, 11:10
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Hello Dave,
The hull is certaily the remains of a carrier, they had removed the cross tube from behind the steel plate that is normaly behind the drivers seat back and cut two holes through the hull sides about where the seats would normaly have been,then fitted the cross tube there, they cut off the outside of the bracket that normaly held the single rear wheel but left the extension protuding into the carrier as it usually does, as they had moved the front cross tube into new holes cut in both sides for some reason this rear bogie was fitted into the original holes where the double bogie usually went, then they fitted the second double bogie and cross shaft though the holes where the single bogie normaly is, this was achieved by moving back the sprockets on the new extension, it is the remains of an original carrier with the addition of these other parts, Regards, Ron
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15-06-07, 20:16
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Hi Ron,
yes, I saw the stripped hull on the other thread after I posted. Then the MH logo came up as well, so it is highly likely to be from a MH light tank. What a great find, now all you have to do is find the rest. Cheers, Dave,
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15-06-07, 20:54
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Well I should have noticed the casting date on that engine.
If it is March 1940 there are two likely military engines, the T202 engine from the VC truck and the T203 engine from the VF truck, both were in production around that time Refers to his own on-line list here.... Dodge Military Survivors List online - 1940 trucks If I had to guess I'd suggest it would be a T202 from a VC3 pickup or similar, as a number of VC's passed through the HOLDEN plant some time during WW2 - here's one....  There's no proof, but current opinion is that these were re-conditioned trucks that (like mine) might have passed through the Mount Rainier Ordnance Plant in Washington State after a hard life as training vehicles or on the Alcan projects, and then were shipped out as war aid mid WW2 to get rid of what were then non-standard vehicles. If it does have a T202-xxxx engine code on the block it will be the only surviving part of a VC truck known of down your way - almost as rare as an MH Light Tank but not quite, as the list above covers all known survivors. The WW2 Dodge Motor Pool chap, Dave Robinson, would be most interested as he has always been looking for VC bits. If it is a T202 it'll be a low compression 201 cu in engine though, not much use for shifting a tank of any description.
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15-06-07, 21:22
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March 1940 Dodge engine codes,
When you get a chance to have a look at the block, this should tell you what it came from...
1940 model year Canadian and US 1/2 ton civilian; T92-xxxx 1/2 ton military; T202-xxxx (201 cu in) 3/4 ton civilian; T94-xxxx 1 ton civilian; T96-xxxx 1.5 ton civilian; T98-xxxx (241.5 cu in) 1.5 ton military; T203-xxxx 3 ton civilian; T100, T104, T108-xxxx depending on model
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07-12-09, 04:29
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i have a documentary about the US military building the Alcan Highway i agree they were filmed in use on that project
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07-12-09, 12:57
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is this a pattern carrier ? or is it a severely modded Lp ? i have never seen a bogey setup like that before, the preasure on the road wheel (the one acting as an idler) must be emense, a nice find though.
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07-12-09, 23:53
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Hi Richard,
Its just the remains of a standard L P 2 aust carrier, I got quite a few other carrier parts at the time I picked this one up such as various bins,track winch, crow bar, front mudguards, not cheap but I never pass up any carrier parts, its only money after all.I was dealing with the son of the man who converted a standard carrier to use at his fathers and uncles sawmill,it was used to snig logs at the mill, a standard carrier will not slew on the spot in the soft ground conditions , mud, sawdust and the usual crap that you find on the ground around a bush mill,that was the reason for fitting the trasfer case from the Marmon Herrington tank,acording to the son that I was dealing with,it seems it was one of the hundred or so that was diverted to Aust from Java,and used as trainers here for a few years and , then scrapped the engines 4 of them for each were used in ships lighters, and some of the armour plate used around the wheel house of the lighters. just how the farther and uncle got the parts I have no idea, they are both dead now and the son in his mid 50s does not either Regards Ron
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08-12-09, 00:00
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Just a bit more Richard, the wheels are the standard pattern aust wheels by that I am refering to the spoke pattern but they are the same width as the British carrier wheels it was also fitted with British track and they had welded cleats onto the track for better purchase in the soft ground, If you know of anyone who has a need for the Marmon parts, I will sell them, as I am getting tired of moving them out of my way in the shed, Regards Ron
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11-12-09, 15:44
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As far as I know there's still some MH diffs and final drives in Victoria for sale. Another party again (I think) listed a diff on eBay within the last few months. Ron, are those bull gear reduction units also marked as MH? It's just that they look different from the ones I saw in Vic which looked similar to Stuart final drives but with a drive coupling flange instead of an axle. Apart from the MH tanks diverted to Aust from the Dutch, crates of spares were also landed on the docks and as Ron said the tanks were dismantled after training use (as far as I have heard and read).
Regards Alex McDougall
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12-12-09, 05:31
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Hi Alex,
Yes all of the drive line is marked Marmon, there are no axcles used in this conversion, the drive from the transfer case is via chains on spockets, its all Marmon two man tank parts, have a look on Tank net you can see more there and the various remaks from the experts around the world, there is quite a bit of interest from the U S A, but its still covered by the rules of lend lease, anyway thanks for your comment, there are quite a few pics of all of the parts in other posts that I have put on this forum. Regards Ron, John Belfield called in here a little while back and mentioned the parts in Victoria but he said they were not like the ones that I have
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