the C8 I am working on

[Gordon Yeo]

My mechanic is home from Manitoba and getting the fleet sorted. He has the C60 running as it should, cleaned up one of my messes. We had the C8 out for another run, it still needs a lot of finish work. But, it sure has a lot more pep and speed than the big trucks.

Alex you will notice that I finally got the rims the mounted correct way.

[Phil Waterman]

Hi Gordon

Trucks sure look good, now you face the problem which one do I drive.

Cheers Phil

[Yeo.NT]

Here is a video of our test drive today, I do apologize if the choice of filming is not to everyone's liking

https://youtu.be/IeBxZ26ThFY

[Gordon Yeo]

Phil

I have all my fun fixing the trucks up. I let some one else drive them.

Gord

[Bob Carriere]

....love that clear glass.....not even a bug splatter!!!!!

Cheers

[Mike K]

They are nice to drive, compared to the the larger vehicles, the C8 sits on the road nicely without any nasty surprises. I've had mine up to 45mph max. You can do the math for the RPM of the engine , I think it works out at 2500 RPM at 45 MPH .

[Yeo.NT]

The second test drive we did today was with a vehicle following to gauge speed more accurately and discovered the C8 was doing 50mph with ease and still had plenty left in reserve

[Mike K]

Originally Posted by Yeo.NT

The second test drive we did today was with a vehicle following to gauge speed more accurately and discovered the C8 was doing 50mph with ease and still had plenty left in reserve

The engine in my C8 has the original cast iron pistons in situ, these pistons have been known to break if stressed too much, the piston top comes off I purchased a set of aftermarket Aluminium based 216 pistons ( when the postage from USA was cheap) , but surprise , they weigh only 25% less than the cast iron type .

[Gordon Yeo]

Mike

The first thing to get thrown under the bus on my restorations is the 216 engine. The 15 cwt came with a 235 engine and was a step up in power from a 216. The C60 had no engine so a 235 was put together for it, a 261 would have been better, harder to find. The C8 came with an original 216 that was seized solid from many years of sitting. I found a really good 235 for it and am very pleased with it. The early 235 production engine was an oil splasher like the 216 but I have the later full oil pressure ones. Perhaps not the purists way of restoring to original but I don't have a 74 year old time bomb waiting to go off.

Gord

[Phil Waterman]

Originally Posted by Yeo.NT

Here is a video of our test drive today, I do apologize if the choice of filming is not to everyone's liking

https://youtu.be/IeBxZ26ThFY

Hi

Great little "drivers eyes view" of test drive enjoyed watching it, I've wondered about a GoPro camera mounted on drivers helmet or headband. Does give a different result than fixed camera.

The 235 or 261 engines do have a more useful RPM and power range in CMPs while I do agree with keeping the engines stock/original I'm a realist which is why only one my CMPS has a 216. People today are just not as tolerant of big slow trucks as the were.

Keep those videos coming.

Cheers Phil

[Gordon Yeo]

Today was wiper motor clinic and windshield installation. Neil worked through four wiper motors and now has two he can take home for his project. So when the truck goes out the next time there will be bugs on the glass Bob. I have the wiper arms but no blades yet.

[aj.lec]

Nice work . Looks great

[Alex van de Wetering]

Gordon (and Neil!), excellent work. It's great to see the C8 enjoying the company of it's bigger sisters!

I see you even managed to find a set of rare bumper jewels. Lovely!
Did you have enough material to save the original windscreen frame, or did you have to improvise?

Alex

p.s. Oh.....and good to see the wheels on in proper C8 style. The funny thing is that a few weeks ago I was helping some friends and I nearly put a Bedford MW wheel on the wrong way round.....so with the split rim nuts on the inside....like on a C8

[Gordon Yeo]

Alex

Canada is a big country with many different temperature and humidity variations. In post #2 I showed pictures of a truck cab that I brought home from the Province of Manitoba. Manitoba is very cold in the winter and very hot and dry in the summer, as a result the rust issues that Holland and Ontario deal with are far less out there. The Manitoba cab provided a dot&dash floor that had virtually no rust pitting and perfectly preserved and complete interior sheet metal. The roof and fenders needed no patching or straightening and the windshield frame was in very,very good condition. Between the Manitoba truck cab and the Ripley truck cab and chassis I had enough good parts to build the restoration. If I had not gotten the Manitoba cab I would be fighting the same corrosion problems as your restoration. After seeing what some other MLU members restore and create I seem to be only taking on the easy trucks to restore.

Does that make me lazy or shrewd?

Gord

[Mike K]

My first C8 a cab 12 , had the hooks that keep the doors slightly open. Was this a Australian mod. ? I guess it was done to improve the air flow into the cab in hot conditions. Has anybody else noticed the hooks ?

[Bob Carriere]

I fear necessity caused the retro fit of those ugly hooks.

Early cab 11 did not have them and when installed they used existing holes for the cowl screws and substituted the hooks eyelets in place of the screw. A lot of the cab 12 I have seen had new/extra holes drilled in the cowl facing. They were not very elegant.

I have not yet installed the insulation inside the engine cover and can tell you the sheet on the passengerf side get hot enough to burn knee caps if you are wearing short pants.

A number of early parade ground photos in Canada shows the driver's door wide open and resting on the cargo box...... eventually all cab 12 and retro on cab 11 a canvass restraining strap was installed that prevent the door from opening more than some 90 degree..... maybe that's when they started using the ugly door hooks

Cheers

[Phil Waterman]

Hi Guys

Drive my Pat 12 that way if the air temp is above 70F. I use short bungee cords to make sure the hooks don't bounce out, yes I've had them bounce up but not out. I also drive with my seat belt on, because if the hook does come out your instinct is to grab for the door.

There is one problem though if your hood or nose side panels are missing the little rubber strips, all that love hot air being blown out the engine compartment is scooped up by the doors. This most noticeable at low speed high RPMs.

I'll be driving my Pat 12 over to our summer rally tomorrow, for cast 85-90 F high humidity, so even with the cab top off, will be driving with doors on the hooks an windshield open.

Cheers Phil

[Phil Waterman]

Hi Guys

Thought you might get a kick out of this, drove the Pat 12 C60L over to our rally for the week this morning with the doors on the hooks. Air temp in the 85+F or 20 C range at 10AM this morning.



As far as the speedo was concerned never exceeded 30MPH but then again it doesn't read any higher than that. Shoot GoPro of all the runs in each truck so will have to edit them and get them posted.

Cheers Phil

Love those videos of CMP rides.

[Wayne Hingley]

It looks like a beautiful day for a drive in the CMP Phil. I bet there was a big smile on your face. Looking forward to your video.

[Phil Waterman]

Hi Guys

Well it happened for the first time today one of the doors on the Pattern 12 decided to pop open while driving down the road.

Fortunately it happened at low speed, had just pulled off the highway and was climbing a steep hill in 2nd gear and the left hand door swung open. Didn't even swing all the way back no damage done. My biggest worry was that I'd meet another vehicle and have them hit the door. Got to the top of the hill road widened and as I pulled over on the flat and braked the door swung shut on its own, and latched.

Reached over and hooked the bungee I use to be sure the door hook stays put when running the truck with the door open on the hooks. Strangely I had the drivers side door open on the hook at the time.

Wonder if this is one of the reason they went over from the single to the double notch door strikes on the Pattern 13s the following year. Has anybody seen a double notch door strike on a pattern 11 or 12 ?

Cheers Phil

[Bob Carriere]

Hi Phil

My cab 11 has the double notch but not sure they are doubles on my other cab 12...... I do know MAC did not have the double notches available in there catalogue.

I also noticed that you are missing the centring wedge on one side..... is that the side that popped open??

I have spare wedges if you need one..... and the cab 11 and 12 wedges are different than the cab 13 which is much fatter cross section.

After a rough ride it is not unusual for my doors to pop out of contact with the first notch.......and the second one usually holds good.

When I adjusted my doors I found it necessary to add a steel spacer behind the notched section to move it outward and insure a better 1/4 in. bite with the door latch. You might need to do the same.

Cheers