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Old 02-01-09, 22:10
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Jordan My Good friend Jim Debock west of Edmonton Just finnished a three year restoration on a running carrier .He has done a excellent job and it is original I would take things off of mine for him to copy "I can say this would make any body nervice ,and he would make them just like the original ones .The windows switches front armament boxes ,fender skirts ect .He restord my brengun and when I take it to the Legion The RCMP sure stare at it .Jim is in the process of making a Windsor carrier now . He tells me he would write things on MLU but he can not log in for some reason .Reg Hodgson, Army Motors editer has a nice original carrier .Jim and I have the armament measurements for a MKK1 .I have trouble to post pictures on this site .I will have to get my grandson to help me . George
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Old 03-01-09, 03:12
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George i would be interested in those measurements if you manage to get them to hand.


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Old 05-01-09, 04:42
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Had 4 days off in a row this past weekend and guess what. I spent most of it working on the UC. My conduit pipes have all been cleaned and primed. I have a few fixes to do due to the pipe splitting but it should weld up fine. Lots and lots of little electrical brackets cleaned and a few ones new made since the originals were too far gone.

I also picked up some nice NOS stuff the other day. A box of blackout disks for the rear light, part of the antenna bracket, 2 wrench's (one looks like it went through a mechanics ear and out the other side, yuck), springs for the headlamps and rubber bushings for the radio cables. The best part or should I say parts I got this weekend were a set of NOS mufflers.
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Old 05-01-09, 05:52
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HAd to make one of the asbestos retention frames as the original was too far gone. I only realized this once it had been removed from the engine cover and I pulled the padding off. I ended up having to form the metal myself and although it was a rather simple piece I am proud that I did it all on my own. After checking with my uncle about him welding it at work with the mig, he thought it might be too thin for what they had. He recomended I try to solder. So thats what I did and those joints are strong.

I also got my battery rods ready for installation and got some newish wingnuts for them. Interestingly enough both rods are NOS with the part #'s/dates stamped into them. However one is painted semi-gloss black while the other is KG#3.

Finally I also got some of those little dished washers for the headlamps. These came off of a rusted out headlamp I had. Since the headlamp was useless I didn't really pay much attention to it until this weekend when I thought the washers may be in good shape. Sure enough after cutting the headlamp off they were fine. Now I just need 10 more.
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Old 04-05-05, 01:47
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Hi Lynn

Thansk for the info on the machine screws. I got mine form Brofasco. For those that do not know they are a supplier of fastners for industry in Canada.

So does anyone know of a place within Southern Ontario that would sell these screws that Lynn speaks of.

To the other two fine people who have offered help. You will be contacted in the future for assistance. Please be standing by your phones 24hrs for the call.
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Jordan, go back to Brafasco and ask for BSF fasteners. If they don't have them they can get them. Another source is Spaenaur in Kitchener, ON. I know they have them as well.
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Here are some more progress pictures.

I have been really working hard over the last few months getting lots done. Ive picked up almost all of the steel I will need. Actually I have twice as much as I need due to me not writing down the thickness of the angle iron. Who knew it came in varying thicknesses Its since been donated for use on the farm.

The engine is back up and running and it sounds a lot better then it did since last year. Thanks Charlie for timming my distributor. I also managed to sort out my leaky water pump problem. Unfourtunatley those early flat head water pumps are much more expensive then the 37-41 water pumps are.

Ive also got my kahki green #3 paint ordered and I should be painting some stuff by Saturday if all goes to plan. Im getting a 2 part industrial urathene paint from Dura Chemicals in Hamilton. ONce I get it back I'll post up the formula/ ref number as they said they woudl keep it on file.

Ive also started constructing a new engine cover and frame. Its half completed beside the drill press. Thanks Charlie for lending it out to me.

Anyway enjoy the pictures.
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Old 15-06-05, 05:11
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Here is the next photo
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Old 15-06-05, 05:15
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And the next one
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Old 15-06-05, 05:17
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Another one
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Old 15-06-05, 05:21
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And finally the engine
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Old 20-06-05, 06:09
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Here is the rad cover and back end all painted up.

Ive started a new thread on KG#3 paint in the resto forum.
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Here is the rear end
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Old 07-07-05, 04:52
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Well I got all the pedals put back into the carrier. I had pulled them out back in January/ Febuary and spent a few weeks this spring cleaning them up. Lot and lots of jumping in and out to get everything in nice and tight. Tried to use as many of the original fastners as possible but some were just too far gone.

The gas pedal snaps right back up using only the spring tension on the engine linkage.

If anyone has a spare hand brake or any other parts that you see missing please let me know as I would be interested.
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Old 07-07-05, 05:02
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Since I had the pedals all in I natrualy had to take it for a spin. This was the first time my carrier had been out of the barn since last October. Now I had not gone without any driving since then as I had the chance a few times to drive a couple in Ottawa for the VE-Day celebrations.

Anyway what was supposed to be just a quick spin around and back into the barn ended up being about 30 minutes of fun. The ext four pictures are all film stills from my camera so they are not the best quality. But I think you will get the idea.

At one point I had turned around and caught a glimps of what looked like a carrier sitting in an orchard somewhere in England (1941-42) or Normandy(1944). I guess I can dream.
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Old 07-07-05, 05:04
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Old 07-07-05, 05:06
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Making a turn at the high end of second gear comming off of a bump. It felt better then it looked.
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Old 07-07-05, 05:09
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And the last one for now of the carrier moving
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After those last pictures I had discovered that I melted my battery due to the exhaust leaving the engine and hitting the battery square on. I guess thats what I get for not installing the battery tray or securing the battery.

Anyway I have since gotten part of my exhuast system installed. I managed to modify 2 CDN tire 90 degree exhaust pipes to fit from the engine manifold and the mounts on the hull floor. Now I just have to put in the striaght pipes and mount the mufflers.

I have also been busy painting the inside and outside of the carrier over the last couple of days off that I have had. I now have the rear compartment from fenders down primed and painted in Kahki Green #3. I also have the rear upper plate painted on both sides and the left side plate painted on the outside.

I will let the pictures show the rest.
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Old 14-09-05, 03:24
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And the last one for now.
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Hi jordan Nice Pics on your Carrier , looks just like mine at this stage, I Had a hole new frontel armour put on , in a lighter gage steel, so I need to do sum cutting and drilling. I was wondering If you could help me out , I'll pay ja for your time, sum things i need as a cardboard template.

1, I need a template of the view slits 3 of them on the carrier, just one template, I need to cut them out on my carrier. and measurments on the spot to cut them out.

2, the folding armour plate on the left side of the gunners position, I need a template on that, and maybe a little desinge on the holder on the inside.

lastly can you give me sum measurement on the Drivers site, maybe a cardboard cut out? thanks




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Old 11-10-05, 05:56
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A bit more of an update on my progress.

Mike I sent you a PM on the questions you asked.

Since I havn't been able to get my usual helper out to help with the big stuff I have been working on the endless small things.

Back at the Caldwell Convoy #4 I managed to pickup a battery box with the POL carrier on the back of it. I have since gottent he box cleaned up and painted. All of the hinges were seized but Mr. Ballpeen hammer and oil got everything loosened up. I figure it will make a great stowage bin once its on the carrier.
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Old 11-10-05, 06:04
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Ok next picture is of the POL carrier. When I got it looked like the carrier it had been attached to was backed into something harder then it. The result was a "slightly" dented POL bin. I ahve taken it all apart and made it as straight as possible. I now have to clean it up using the electrolytic process. I have to say that this is really easy to use and it frees up your time to do something else.
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Old 11-10-05, 06:11
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Next picture is of the smoke generator launcher mount. I got this and the gunners protection plate from Rob Groves's CMP-Resource. I have to say that these are top quality reproductions and are well worth the money spent especially since they are of the harder to find objects. Anyway it has been painted in my paint so that it mathces the rest of the carrier.
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Old 11-10-05, 06:18
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Up next is a picture of my sophisticated painting department. No dust getting on the wet paint here. It features a positive air pressure system (only when both barn doors are open and the wind is out of the east).

Ok kidding aside.

These bins are from left to right to bottom. They are the ration bin, smoke generator bin adn part of the tool box. Im just waiting on a replacment lid. The two upper boxes came form Midwest Military (John Bizal) These parts are also top quality and well worth the money.
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Old 11-10-05, 06:25
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Lastly this picture shows off my own craftmanship of metal working. These parts are the clips that hold the copper radiator overflow tube. This tub goes from the rad cap along the inside top edge of the engine frame and out the rear of the hull. I made them out of galvanized steel as thay way they will not rust out like the original ones. Also it was the only kind of sheet metal I could find in the barn. I have since drilled the holes in them. Now I only need to make up the engine cover.
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Nice metal work Jordan , How do I get intouch with Rob Groves? do you have his email? Jordan can you give me sum dimesions on the wireless battery box? I need to have one made or buy a repro one. Thanks mate



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Old 14-10-05, 19:58
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Hi Mike

I'll get you some better picutres and dimensions by Sunday.

I'll also send you a PM with the contact info.
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OUTSTANDING LAD!!!! THANK you JORDAN!!


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