Canadian Road Signs

[servicepub (RIP)]

[John McGillivray]

An 8th Army sign from Italy

[John McGillivray]

The caption for this picture reads

“The “UP” route through Germany”.

[Rob van Meel]

The ex-German staff car sees to hae CNF 2on the left hand side: this is one of our late Prince Bernhards IGKL cars: Mecedes 8 cylinder with compressor (Chassis number 366/989 and engine number 429335)

Some more pictures of Canadian and British vehicles, equipment and one or two road signs are on the Municipality of Nijmegen site:

http://www.noviomagus.nl/Gastredacti.../Image321.html

Rob

[Marco C.]

Hello Rob nice to see you here

[Dana Nield]

Hi Folks,

My company, Quartermaster's Depot (http://www.quartermastersdepot.com) produced the signs in question. They are available in 1/35 and 1/72 scales and if the popularity of 1/48th scale Armour models increases, I'll release them in that scale as well.

Cheers!

Dana

[wim sikkelbein]

This signpost was placed in the city of Groningen after the battle

book source: MAPLE LEAF UP de canadese opmars in Noord-Nederland.

[marco]

Somewhere in Holland or Germany.

[Michael Dorosh]

Originally posted by Dana Nield
Hi Folks,

My company, Quartermaster's Depot (http://www.quartermastersdepot.com) produced the signs in question. They are available in 1/35 and 1/72 scales and if the popularity of 1/48th scale Armour models increases, I'll release them in that scale as well.

Cheers!

Dana

I'm seeing an objection to the use of your artwork in public - would it be possible to get permission to reproduce the road signs on my website? I have long thought an online reference to these signs would be handy and had considered doing similar artwork based on photos myself (actually, I have done one or two but not enough to put up on my site). If you're amenable, I'd certainly be interested in housing these images for public display - properly credited to the appropriate sources and with a link to your site.

[peter simundson]

And that, of course, is Florence just below the sign.

[Michael Reintjes]

Friend of mine in Holland sent me this photo.....

[Mark W. Tonner]

Originally posted by Michael Reintjes
Friend of mine in Holland sent me this photo.....

Hi Michael;

Interesting photo, the AoS and Fmn Sign says that this "B" Vehicle Park was operated by No. 4 Armoured Divisional Ordnance Field Park, R.C.O.C.

Cheers

[Michael Reintjes]

Hi Mark...Thanks for that info.....My buddy lives in Welberg just outside Steenbergen,the site of a Fight that elements of 4th Armoured Div had against Trg Btn Herman Goering Div types. He's really into collecting 4th Div stuff and was able to buy the sign shown......going to see him in April so I,ll let him know your findings.....thanks again...Cheers,Mike.

[Mark W. Tonner]

Originally posted by Michael Reintjes
Hi Mark...Thanks for that info.....My buddy lives in Welberg just outside Steenbergen,the site of a Fight that elements of 4th Armoured Div had against Trg Btn Herman Goering Div types. He's really into collecting 4th Div stuff and was able to buy the sign shown......going to see him in April so I,ll let him know your findings.....thanks again...Cheers,Mike.

Hi Michael;

I forgot to add that the sign would be from the period June-July 1945 when the majority of the vehicles of the 4th Cdn Armd Div were turned into Ordnance.

Cheers

[Michael Dorosh]

Originally posted by Mark W. Tonner
Hi Michael;

I forgot to add that the sign would be from the period that the 4th Cdn Armd Div would have been breaking-up upon leaving NWE.

Cheers

Quite possibly the ordnance parked there would have gone to the Dutch Army?

[Mark W. Tonner]

Originally posted by Michael Dorosh
Quite possibly the ordnance parked there would have gone to the Dutch Army?

Hi Michael;

The majority of the 23,000 vehicles that were held in the vehicle park of No. 13 Canadian Army Ordnance Roadhead (Nijmegen) by December 1945 where disposed of to War Assets Corporation which sold many of them to the Dutch Government.

Cheers

[Michael Reintjes]

Thanks Michael And Mark for the insights......My Dutchman will be pleased.....thanks again....Cheers,Mike.

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Another original road sign, on display at the Westkapelle war museum: http://www.polderhuiswestkapelle.nl/

[Michael Dorosh]

I just came into a collection of photos - four dozen in all - of a fellow who went up the L of C with camera in hand and took shots of as many road signs as he can. I have scanned his prints and intend to publish a book on the subject. I'd be interested in including any other images - provided they are copyright free - anyone would care to send my way in hi-res, with notice of its provenance, etc. I have gleaned what I can from the LAC site and servicepub has come through for me with some stuff with their archives as well, so I have about 75 pictures in hand at the moment, but would love to round it out with some more. Some postwar survivors like the one shown above would be an interesting addition also. Some of the pictures have been posted to my forum:

http://www.network54.com/Forum/28173...r+John+Cameron

http://www.network54.com/Forum/28173...004/Photo+Quiz

Not great examples, but the collection includes a photo of the famous Onyx Route sign after several months of heavy traffic went by it, some bridges, some truly astounding sign posts that would have put the Germans to shame, etc.

[Keith Webb]

Michael - have linked one of your linked pics to the In the background thread.

[lynx42]

G'day all,
What is the british truck in SP's post with the overall tracks on the rear?
Rick

[Michael Dorosh]

No, seriously.



I've tried to google for information on these, or better images, but drew a blank. Can anyone point me to some info on the odd winged-shape decorations that Belgian highway signs seemed to have during the Second World War?

[Rich Payne]

Originally Posted by Michael Dorosh

No, seriously.
Can anyone point me to some info on the odd winged-shape decorations that Belgian highway signs seemed to have during the Second World War?

I'd better just warn you before the 'noorderburen' come down on you like a ton of bricks but judging by the destinations, that signpost is very much in The Netherlands.

[Michael Dorosh]

Originally Posted by Rich Payne

I'd better just warn you before the 'noorderburen' come down on you like a ton of bricks but judging by the destinations, that signpost is very much in The Netherlands.

Any useful information would be welcome, especially a decent image of the device itself. I've googled for both Belgian and Dutch information but am coming up empty.

[Rich Payne]

Michael, no great mystery, simply a sign set up by the touring organisation ANWB.

http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Im...-wegwijzer.jpg

Rich.

[Michael Dorosh]

Originally Posted by Rich Payne

Michael, no great mystery, simply a sign set up by the touring organisation ANWB.

http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Im...-wegwijzer.jpg

Rich.

The mystery is what the symbol represents, how widely used are they, etc. Do you have any further information? Were they in use on all signs in 1944-45, or just select routes?

What is the ANWB?

[Rich Payne]

It's just a double winged wheel. The ANWB were originally a cyclist's touring organisation, nowadays a motoring organisation including cars, like the UK's AA or RAC. I'm not sure what you have in Canada.

It seems that they started putting up signposts and had a monopoly on it for many years. What we see in the photograph is simply a pre-war Netherlands signpost.

Judging by what I can read, they were used on the main roads out of towns. Presumably just to remind motorists who broke down kilometers from anywhere that they should have joined !

I expect that one of the Dutch members can give you more detail. I'm relatively new in the low countries !

[wim sikkelbein]

Originally Posted by Michael Dorosh

The mystery is what the symbol represents, how widely used are they, etc. Do you have any further information? Were they in use on all signs in 1944-45, or just select routes?

What is the ANWB?

The symbol does indeed represent the dutch cyclist organisation ANWB, a winged wheel as Rich already mentioned.
This symbol was used troughout the netherlands starting in 1892 with wooden examples and from 1896 with metal ones, with already 4000 of them in 1939. From 1934 a smaller model was introduced. There was also a "mushroom" version from 1919 onwards which stands close to the ground with 2000 of those by 1942.
The first signs were used between large cities in 1908 and by 1913 the 2000 example was unveiled so I imaging that also provincial and smaller roads got their own signs by then.

information from:
http://www.anwb.nl/over-anwb/kernact...wijzering.html
http://www.anwb.nl/binaries/pdf/over...3175_28014.pdf

[Mark W. Tonner]

Canadian road signs ...

[CWO (ret) Gilles Aubé]

Can we found out from which RGT this RSM and this Artillery SGT are from?