British 10-cwt trailer reference thread

[Les Freathy]

evening guys

A few more items relating to the 10cwt trailers, the first two are the steel body airportable
mlu25.jpg


this one is the wooden body 10cwt GS
mlu27.jpg


and another: 10cwt stores trailer
mlu28.jpg


Finally the morter ammunition trailer
mlu29.jpg mlu26.jpg

[Nick Bullock]

Hi
Just bringing and old thread back to life and hoping that there may be more info out there on the lightweight stores trailers that Les pictured here? I have seen the remains of one today and am interested in the construction, internal layout etc etc? I had not seen a real one before.
regards
nick

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Just learned from Clive Elliott that 10-cwt trailers were not only used during WW2 but soldiered on until the 1950s-60s. EMERs (Electrical and Mechanical Engineering Regulations) continued to be issued into the mid 1960s.

This is what the "Trailer, 1/2 Ton, 4.2in, Mortar Ammunition No.1, 2 Wheeled" looked like in the 1960 parts list:

mortar trailer App0250.jpg

[Hendrik van Oorspronk]

Originally posted by Les Freathy
this one is the wooden body 10cwt GS

I think this one is a mortartrailer, no tailgate and full wood

hendrik

[Noel Burgess]

Just been checking through the photos I took this summer of the Dunkirk filmset in Redcar and spotted this - looks like a 10 cwt GS No1

[Nick Bullock]

hendrick you were correct, just wait long enough and a source of spares will turn up!!!! Now I can start properly....
kind regards
nick

[Alex van de Wetering]

It seems another 10-cwt trailer has surfaced , somewhere in Normandy.

http://www.musee-grand-bunker.com/data/4fouilles04.jpg

Source: Grand Bunker museum

Alex

[Hendrik van Oorspronk]

Originally posted by Nick Bullock
hendrick you were correct, just wait long enough and a source of spares will turn up!!!! Now I can start properly....
kind regards
nick

Hello Nick,

Missed this reaction before, but it looks like you have another mortar trailer for spares.

Green Greetings Hendrik

[Nick Bullock]

Hi hendrick

Yes indeed, I have finally begun the reconstruction of this trailer, In the end the blue trailer listed seemed the best bet, the black was was very poor but has given up enough bits to make a complete unit... I hope. I wonder if any reader may be near to ursel in a couple of weeks to snap a heap of pics of the 10cwt trailer that shows up there? I'm looking for details of how the woodwork is fitted and also all the little tie down brackets, tail gate etc... Cheeky but I thought I should ask.... Sadly I cannot make it to WAW this year, I have to do a family holiday but am allowed a visit to Tanks in the town on the way home!
regards
nick

[Hendrik van Oorspronk]

Originally posted by Nick Bullock
Hi hendrick

I'm looking for details of how the woodwork is fitted and also all the little tie down brackets, tail gate etc... nick

There is one easy thing about the mortar trailer, there is no tailgate at the back, but every good side has it bad sides, it is at the front.

Hendrik

PS. PM me your e-mail adress, I can send you some pictures, it may take a time, but they will come.

[Nick Bullock]

its had several cross members removed at some time long ago, but the second trailer has given up enough bits to reconstruct it.
regards
nick

[Nick Bullock]

I have managed to recover a number of items that must beong to the front 'gate' tale gate, but its not clear from what I have just how the catches etc are fitted... or may be I'm being slow!
regards
nick

[Alex van de Wetering]

Nick,

Maybe Hendrik will be able to help you allready. Anyway, I will be attending Wings and Wheels and would be happy to take the details shots of the trailer for you.

Please let me know if you think of any other details apart from the details you mentioned, which I should picture.

Alex

[Nick Bullock]

Hi Alex
thanks for that. I have had the HUA over there for the last couple of years and not managed to take the pictures I now find I need! I think I can see how the metalwork was put together by piecing together the parts of the two trailers. What I'm not sure of is the woodwork, and attached hard ware, in particular the catches, rope loops, (all missing) andy additional iron mongery, and the wooden lip around the top edge.. Also what kinds of fateners bolts etc are used, I imagine the top lip is counterbored coach bolts, but I'm not sure.. Any help would be reatly appreciated. I'm really sorry not to be going over this year, I love the show, it remonds me of UK shows years ago before things became so hectic!
kind regards
nick

[Alex van de Wetering]

Nick,

No problem. I will try to cover all the details for you.

I remember seeing a C8 on the show some years ago and just realised it was yours! It's a pity you won't be there wit the HUA and/or C8.

Alex

[Nick Bullock]

Hi Alex
Thanks for that , The C8 and the HUA have both been to WAW a time or two. Living near the port of Hull in UK, Ursel is actually quite close when you measure the driving time.. I hope to be there again next year if I can. Family holidays have to come first this time, I'm sure they'll enjoy Normandy :-)
kind regards
nick

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Trailer, G.S. No.2

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Restored 10-cwt trailer in Holland

[Geoff Winnington-Ball (RIP)]

Originally posted by Hanno Spoelstra
Restored 10-cwt trailer in Holland

I like the cat...

Ref the trailer, interesting choice of colour, is it not?

[Nigel Watson]

This is just what I am looking for guys! If anymore turn up please let me know!! Wood sided one!!

You lucky lot!! Green with envy!

Nigel

[Nick Bullock]

Hi nigel
The two I am attempting to reconstruct (as one) both came via ebay of all places and at nominal cost, collection actually cost more! They both originated in the same area of the midlands around Stoke on Trent. I suspect that at some time some where like Watsons of Stone or Hamptons of Newcastle probably disposed of a lot. Interestingly I am originally from that area and remember seeing trailers like these about the city, unfortunately at that time I only had eyes for Jeeps!
incidentally do you have any spec on towing equipment for carriers? or fabrication of same??
kind regards
nick

[dougiebarder]

Originally posted by Geoff Winnington-Ball
I like the cat...

Ref the trailer, interesting choice of colour, is it not?

Cat's-being what they are, it's probably duped the trailer owner into either feeding or stroking it. And he didn't get the chance to get past the primer coat!

(or it just knocked over the paint tin because it would be funny)

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Originally posted by Nigel Watson
If anymore turn up please let me know!! Wood sided one!!

Nigel,

Here's one advertised for sale in The Netherlands. It was advertised last January, might still be for sale? Asking price is 750 Euros.

Cheers,
Hanno

[Nigel Watson]

Thanks Hanno
Will check it out.
Nigel

[austin tilly]

Our restaration is going well. Next week the frame will be restored.
Today I managed to get the last id-plate of. As far I can see, I have two out of three. Does anyone have a picture of the third id-plate. It should be on the side of the frame.

Here are the two id-plates.


Cheers,
Arjan

[austin tilly]

another found on our 10cwt trailer were these.


These were used to guide the wires through the frame. Has anyone seen these before?

Cheers,
Arjan

[Les Freathy]

For those who like to model heres a 1/35 scale model of a 10cwt from Lead Sled in the UK
cheers
Les

[Hendrik van Oorspronk]

Model looks very good, they only made one mistake, as it looks like a motar trailer. When I look good the front opens also and the square mudgaerds, the rear of the trailer schouldn't open.

Green Greetings Hendrik

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[Hanno Spoelstra]

4.2" mortar unit in action at 's Hertogenbosch, Holland, 1944. Note the 10-cwt trailers.[/URL]

s_Hertogenbosch_1944.jpg

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Jeep plus 10-cwt trailer in Royal Signals use in Germany, as late as 1963!