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"One in 4 civilians says to feel "involved" with Europe, 39% says they don't feel involved. These are the results from a Netherlands Foreign office study this month into the attitude of Dutchmen towards Europe. And this is true for the whole of Europe. Only 48% of the Europeans supports the membership of the EU, as was found in the Eurobarometer published late 2003. During the early nineties 69% of the Europeans found the EU a good thing. But there's more: according to the Eurobarometer the Dutch are the least attached to Europe of all Europeans. Merely 29% of the Dutch says to feel involved with the EU, 68% says they feel "not much" or "not at all" involved with Europe. The Dutch even think more negative about Europe than the British, where 51% feel "not much" or "not at all" involved with Europe. Ask the Dutch about Europe and 8 out of 10 civilians say: gravy train." Need I say more? H. |
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The Passing of an ex-pat Scottish nationalist in Vancouver
No, Gordon, I'm not talking about you.
In today's paper there was mention in the obituaries column of the passing in Vancouver of a Mr Vernon, who acheived a certain notoriety in 1950 by stealing (Sorry, recovering) the Stone of Scone from Westminster Abbey in a student prank, and returning it to Scotland. Having received many accolades ( ) from the scots and disapproval ( ) from the English establishment, he eventually found reason to emigrate to Canada. Perhaps Gordon has comitted a similar such outrage on the sassenachs and needs to quit bonny Scotland quicksmart? Git oot now, man! |
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... they already gave us that lump of stone back, so I can't do that again.
Maybe if I towed the new Scottish Parliament buidling out into the North Sea and let it sink ? Gordon
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Gordon-Take the stone back, and drop it on tony-I'm sure watching that on the tv would make a lot of people feel better.
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In Nelson's day any handy thing, including the impressed sub 10yr olds fetching and carrying, were called monkeys. Cannon balls, not to be confused with Winnington-Balls, were racked on a brass triangle with very shallow location indents, then had a second and third layer and a single ball on top to make a small pyramid. Care to take a stab at "got me over a barrel" and "The devil to pay" ? R. |
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Not strictly relavent, but I just read this on another forum and thought it might amuse.
"An elderly Scottish gentleman arrived in Paris by plane. At French customs he fumbled for his passport. "You have been to France before, monsieur?" the customs officer asked sarcastically. The old gent admitted that he had been to France before. "Then, you should know enough to have your passport ready for inspection," snapped the irate official. The Scotsman said, "The last time I came to France I didn't have to show my passport." "Impossible, old man. You Scottish persons always have to show your passports on arrival in France!" The old Scotsman gave the Frenchman a long hard look. Then, with the feel of acid on his words, calmly stated, "I assure you, young man, that when I came ashore on that Beach in Normandy on D-Day in 1944, there wasn't a Frenchman anywhere to be seen." |
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Like that joke dougiebarder!
As JD didn't have a go at FV623s little quiz this time: 'over a barrel' I've heard several explanations for this one. When sailors were being tried for an offence, the Officer in charge would use a barrel for a desk. Therefore when you are said to be 'over a barrel' you are in a tight spot. 'the devil to pay'. Paying a seam is the action of filling the gap between deck planks with a mixture of oakum and tar; and the widest seam is the one where the deck joins the curved side of the ship. This was known as 'the devil'. The full expression is 'there'll be the devil to pay and no pitch hot', in otherwords ' up sh*t creek without a paddle'.
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I don't think the EU would grant you anything for what you suggest, commendable it might be, in fact I have serious doubts if you'd even get the steam off their piss for free. You might be better served with our National Lottery, a device where 20 million of the poorest people sponsor 250 of the richest to attent the Royal Opera House at Covent Garden. The latter organisation already funded to 90 million pa by the arts council from my taxes, further millions on demand from govt direct and another multi-million wedge from the lottery. Reading the list of lottery payouts is interesting, the RBL have been refused many times along with many other sane and worthy causes. However, a group publishing guidance books for the correct use of PC language when dealing with homosexual and lesbian groups got a goodly wedge along with an organisation helping Chilean farmers to improve the production of guinea pigs for human consumption. This is but a crumb of the whole bizarre scenario. Obscene waste I call it, but then everyone else thinks I'm a cantankerous and awkward arse-hole. Admittedly they did put 250K of loose change into Bovvy's Tiger 1 but have driven the programme to the detriment of three exploded Maybach V12s. They wouldn't give Mrs Notton 4K towards the 80K rebuild of the Shirrell Heath scout hut, razed to the ground by a known teenage, female arsonist who got piqued by being picked up for questioning. I think I'm recognising the onset of FV623 transmission problems in a parallel personal way now. Best bugger off for a T and before I loose it completely. R. |
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"The European Union has decided to free up a quarter of a billion Euro's in aid to the Turkish part of Cyprus as a reward for the support of Turksish-Cypriots for the UN-plan to reunite the divided island. To irritation of the EU the Greek-Cypriots voted against the plan last Saturday. The EU had reserved 259 million Euro to help with the reunification in case both communities had voted for the UN-plan. According to the Ministers for Foreign Affairs of the EU-countries that money must now but put into projects to advance the integration between the two parts of the island, in spite of lacking a political regulation." |
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You see the whole sorry mess is devoid of the slightest trace of CDF and is a heap of ordure that people are crapping on as they pass. Have any of you read Neville Shute (Norway), he founded Airspeed Aviation and did the stress calcs for the R100 which was highly successful, as opposed to the short flight of the Govt R101, which he said was doomed owing to the addition of another bay, and indeed only got to Beauvais before crashing. Try "In The Wet" for a prophesy. R. ² |
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If them little blue pills will help me pole vault, then maybe I'll start taking them.
Just imagine the press interview after the Athens Olympics " Never any good at field and track 'till I discovered Viagra" LOL
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By the sound's of it, it'll be the building site olympics this time. So we might come away with a few medals- Wolf whistling, tea drinking, male clevage and nipping down the builders yard for a few bit's, are in the bag.
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Now Order Gentlemen Please,
A pause in this hectic cut and thrust debate with nautical conundrums thrown in for good measure from Mr two T's Notton. (Doubly palindromic indeed, most unusual) If I may summarise our collective position........... It's put up or shut up with Tony and Euro chums OR Off to Alberta where it snows for six months of the year and huge bears regard on you as a bipedal McDonalds for the other six months.... some choice. I hope you are suitably abashed Mr Winnington-Ball at the maelstrom you have raised. Come over here Sir and face the music if you dare !! P J Ashby English Man and Part time Gentleman |
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We are currently having the BBC series on Lawrence who among other things was noted for writing ' THE SEVEN PILLOCKS OF WISDOM '.
The doco goes into how the arabs were totally shafted by the brits and french . The deal was promised thus , autonomy / independance for the arabs in exchange for chucking the turks out of the Middle East . What happened ? A secret deal was done by the Brits and French who, after the battles had been fought and won , litterally carved up the ME between themselves . The French jumped up and down and wanted a bit of the pie , they were allowed to have Syria , the Brits got Mesopitamea ( now IRAQ ) and Palestine . Somebody had spotted the fact that black gooey stuff abounds in Mesopitamea . Wonder why the arab world has a deep distrust of the west . Mike |
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" joining the EU is a lot like going to a brothel - you pay a lot of money and all you get is screwed!" very appropriate in my view.
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Interesting Canadian Editorial
I thought I'd reprint this from today's nation Post... not sure how long it will be available online as a link.
Comments, please. A bigger, scarier EU National Post May 1, 2004 With the addition of 10 new members, the European Union will today expand to 25 members. It is a historic day. From the tribal squabbles of the Bronze age to the industrial butchery of Nazi Germany, Europe has been wracked by war for millennia. As recently as the 1980s, thousands of tanks and missiles were arrayed on either side of the Iron Curtain in anticipation of yet another apocalyptic conflict. The idea that these nations might be joined in common purpose would have then seemed a fantasy. But today, it is a political reality. And yet, it is not a reality most on this side of the Atlantic would embrace. Here in North America, the brief media reports about EU enlargement typically focus on its symbolic and historical ramifications. Less discussed is the intrusive manner by which the EU will impose its writ on the economic, cultural and social life of member states. The EU being an essentially utopian enterprise, its architects are disproportionately drawn from the continent's left-leaning bureaucratic and intellectual classes. As a result, the Union has developed an ambitious set of dirigiste human-rights norms and labour standards. It has also created a new level of government without removing existing layers, thereby expanding the cost of governance for the people of Europe. As Theodore Dalrymple argued on these pages last Tuesday, the new EU Constitution would grant yet more powers to Brussels. If accepted by members, it would create what is essentially a federated superstate, complete with a common foreign policy that members would be required to follow "actively and unreservedly in a spirit of loyalty and mutual solidarity." And since the new members are relatively poor, the union will also become a tool of redistributionist economics, with billions flowing East from Paris and London to Warsaw and Riga. This is a generous gesture on the part of Western Europe. But we doubt it is how most rank-and-file European citizens want their tax money being spent. Indeed, there is something fundamentally undemocratic about the European Union project. While the EU legislature is elected, the body's activities are so obscure that few Europeans bother voting, or even understand its functions. Moreover, in many cases, the most intrusive decisions -- regarding everything from trade to culture -- are made by politically unaccountable judges and functionaries. In Canada, such unaccountability often leaves individual citizens powerless. But in Europe, that impotence now plagues whole states. It is not for us to lecture the Europeans about how to organize their continent. But we are gratified that, here in North America, we have far less expansive ambitions for our own supranational bodies. Co-ordinating trade under NAFTA, or defense under NORAD, is well and good. But would anyone have any use for, say, a "North American Court of Human Rights," in which judges from Montreal and Mexico City would lecture Alabama companies about the way they treat gay employees? The scenario seems absurd. Yet this is the model the European Union is embracing. And one need not be European to find it frightening. PS: Mr. Ashby, do your worst, sir! Ply me with alcohol, give me the .. *gasp * COMFY CHAIR! I WILL NEVAH SURRENDER!
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