Perhaps I got carried away....

[Mike Timoshyk]

I followed the 10" 10" 10" 6" rule applying the roundel.

I sure looks big.....I don't know if there are any photos with trucks with this pattern or not....comments?

One thing nice about paint....you can always paint over it.


Mike Timoshyk

[Mike K]

Looks like the back end of a giant Bee , does it have a sting in its tail ...... . AKA an old prop from the Dr Who TV series of the 60's.

What a perfect target for a 500 bomb , red dot to aim for .

Mike

[cletrac (RIP)]

Mike, they scaled them down when they put them on the roof. I think the ratios were the same though.

[RHClarke]

They make them look like targets so the airforce will miss them...

[Geoff Winnington-Ball (RIP)]

Hehehehe.... nice initiative, Mike!

Having suitably commended your obvious artistic skills, I would only add the small comment that perhaps I might revisit the photo Colin Stevens posted here (about halfway down the page) of that 15cwt towing the 6pdr in Italy...



PS: Rob...

[David Hardway]

Nice Pic David

Is that a NZ Div photo if it is my Great Uncle drove for 5 Fd in North Africa and Italy that could be him heading up the hill .......nice thought anyway

Dave



1941 3" Mortar Carrier
1941 Ford F30 LRDG Replica
1942 Ford F15A (Aust)
1942 NZ Pattern Wheeled Carrier

[cliff]

The roundel is approximately the size of the white circle in your example. They also did not cover the MG hatch but took up most of the room on the roof above the driver when the hatch was fitted. Orders were they were not to be placed on any removeable area and the hatch is removeable as it shows the underside when open.

[Mike Timoshyk]

to be quite honest I saw the various pics of the roundel and the size...just couldn't resist making it bigger...I do have a question though....

when the roundel is placed over the drivers head on the roof and the hatch is open, naturally most of the roundel is covered.

Question: did they ever paint the inside of the hatch to match the roundel when opened? Or was that just too much to ask a bloke with a paintbrush....

Cheers

Mike

.....more paint on order and it will be closer to or the same as Light Stone than the batch I am using now.....

I get automotive paint from Macdonald and White here in Windsor at $35 a gallon. M&W made paint for Ford during the
war. They have already made WW2 flat olive drab for me.

[cliff]

Originally posted by Mike Timoshyk
to be quite honest I saw the various pics of the roundel and the size...just couldn't resist making it bigger...I do have a question though....

when the roundel is placed over the drivers head on the roof and the hatch is open, naturally most of the roundel is covered.

Question: did they ever paint the inside of the hatch to match the roundel when opened? Or was that just too much to ask a bloke with a paintbrush....

Cheers

Mike

Now that is a question I never thought of. I have never seen the inside of the hatch painted to match just as I have never seen the inside of them painted to match the cammo pattern paintwork if it was painted this way so I would be interested to know myself.

[Geoff Winnington-Ball (RIP)]

Originally posted by cliff
Now that is a question I never thought of. I have never seen the inside of the hatch painted to match just as I have never seen the inside of them painted to match the cammo pattern paintwork if it was painted this way so I would be interested to know myself.

Given that Rob's joke a few posts above was really made only half in jest, I rather suspect that not only were the underside of said hatches NOT painted, the roundel itself may well have disappeared in time...

[Keith Webb]

Don't know about roundels, but in Australia we painted the camo pattern on the underside of the hatch as seen here.

[cliff]

Originally posted by Keith Webb
Don't know about roundels, but in Australia we painted the camo pattern on the underside of the hatch as seen here.

Thanks Keith. I accually did not know that. Glad to see your site up and running again.

[chris vickery]

Hi Mike

I would think that the roundel would have been applied to the outside only, as in the case of D Day invasion markings as well.

Depending on what you are trying to depict, my best advice is to not "over-do" your markings. Remember, many of these markings were applied at the field level with whatever was on hand in order to follow orders.

I have always considered the worn out battlefield condition of paint, wear and tear etc to be more representative of what vehs really looked like. Sure factory fresh is OK too byt there is something really neat about the worn in look.

The roundel fell out of favour as the Allies gained air superiority, esp in the Sicilian campain. If you wanted to represent this period it would be cool to "weather" your markings.

I have often thought that if I was ever to do up a cmp, jeep etc as a D Day eg that I would apply the invasion stars and then hastily paint over them, just as many of our guys did. Sounds dumb I know to go to all the work of paint and repaint but in reality, thats what often happened, esp in the case of invasion stars. The Canadian Army hated them, feeling as though they were being Americanized and went to whatever extent to bend and or break the rules. Hence it is often seen where the orders were followed but the stars went on upside down etc...