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Old 15-06-13, 07:09
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Replica ww 2 site Excellent copies of ww2 and other Guns. They will ship to Canada www.evike.com ( dont forget the Thompsons at Princess auto,
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Old 15-06-13, 14:53
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There are some things to watch out for when importing the airsofts. Customs may/will consider them a replica and seize them if they do not meet certain criteria. I believe that the RCMP recently determined that 368 feet per second is the requirement to cause bodily harm (apparently they tested against a pig's eye....poor pig). So if you are above that level, you are ok. But if you are under, then it's a replica and prohibited from importation. As well, if you have a replica that does not meet that threshold, it has to be locked up when at home, and transported as if it is a restricted firearm.
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Old 15-06-13, 22:43
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Evike .com sells Replica Stens and Thompsons BAR Rifles ect...
Cheaper than Buying dewats they will ship to Canada and also up the Feet per second to Make them a legal Pellet Rifle.
but I suggest getting you Thomson from Princess Auto.
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Old 16-06-13, 01:09
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There are some things to watch out for when importing the airsofts. Customs may/will consider them a replica and seize them if they do not meet certain criteria. I believe that the RCMP recently determined that 368 feet per second is the requirement to cause bodily harm (apparently they tested against a pig's eye....poor pig). So if you are above that level, you are ok. But if you are under, then it's a replica and prohibited from importation.

As well, if you have a replica that does not meet that threshold, it has to be locked up when at home, and transported as if it is a restricted firearm. It also cannot be sold, given or bartered to anyone who does not have the license to acquire them (mostly movie prop houses.)
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Old 16-06-13, 01:47
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There are some things to watch out for when importing the airsofts. Customs may/will consider them a replica and seize them if they do not meet certain criteria. I believe that the RCMP recently determined that 368 feet per second is the requirement to cause bodily harm (apparently they tested against a pig's eye....poor pig). So if you are above that level, you are ok. But if you are under, then it's a replica and prohibited from importation.

As well, if you have a replica that does not meet that threshold, it has to be locked up when at home, and transported as if it is a restricted firearm. It also cannot be sold, given or bartered to anyone who does not have the license to acquire them (mostly movie prop houses.)
I'm a little bemused at your regs and not withstanding more than a liitle confused at Australian regs.
So if your imported 'weapon' can shoot a projectile at greater than 368 fps. You can have it, otherwise it's a replica which is not allowed.
I went past an adult store in a nearby Victorian (Aust) town which is selling replica guns, rifles & pistols, SMLE, Thompson, AK, Luger etc. The pistols have red grips and a red mussle cover. The rifles etc just Red mussle covers. They are non firing but apparently the red allows him to circumnavigate the Australian gun laws....
I don't want to enter or create a debate. I'm just a little bemused.
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Old 16-06-13, 03:13
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If the gun shoots over 500 feet per second, and has over 5.7 joules of force, then it is considered a firearm that requires the possessor to have a license. But if it is under 500 fps, but can cause bodily harm, then it is a firearm that does not need the possessor to be licensed. If it shoots under 366 (recently reduced from 400 fps) and closely copies the look of a real firearm, then it is a replica. Replicas are in a special prohibited class in Canada.

That was because too often, Canada's misguided youth would use them for fundraising efforts, during which the police would often shoot these misguided youth. The mother would then wail that the police should have checked the gun first or else shot it out of their had before shooting their poor son, who was just turning their life around.

As a result of these events, the chiefs of police in Canada requested that replicas be banned for sale, manufacture, and import.

Deactivated firearms, however, are in their own class. They do not require registration, safe storage, transport regulations, and can be bought or sold to anyone. They are usually expensive, however, which is probably why the poor misguided youth don't get into trouble with them.

Clear as mud?

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Old 16-06-13, 04:17
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And, in Canada, a soft metal replica 30 cal. Browning displayed on a restored WW2 vehicle at an air show is considered exactly the same as a plastic .357 Smith & Wesson held by a Toronto downtown 'yuth'.

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If the gun shoots over 500 feet per second, and has over 5.7 joules of force, then it is considered a firearm that requires a license to have. But if it is under 500 fps, but can cause bodily harm, then it is a weapon that does not need to be licensed. If it shoots under 368 (recently reduced from 400 fps) and closely copies the look of a real firearm, then it is a replica. Replicas are in a special prohibited class in Canada.

That was because too often, Canada's misguided youth would use them for fundraising efforts, during which the police would often shoot these misguided youth. The mother would then wail that the police should have checked the gun first or else shot it out of their had before shooting their poor son, who was just turning their life around.

As a result of these events, the chiefs of police in Canada requested that replicas be banned for sale, manufacture, and import.

Deactivated firearms, however, are in their own class. They do not require registration, safe storage, transport regulations, and can be bought or sold to anyone. They are usually expensive, however, which is probably why the poor misguided youth don't get into trouble with them.

Clear as mud?
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Old 16-06-13, 04:56
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If the gun shoots over 500 feet per second, and has over 5.7 joules of force, then it is considered a firearm that requires a license to have. But if it is under 500 fps, but can cause bodily harm, then it is a weapon that does not need to be licensed. If it shoots under 368 (recently reduced from 400 fps) and closely copies the look of a real firearm, then it is a replica. Replicas are in a special prohibited class in Canada....
Actually, if it causes 'bodily harm' (by policy 368+ fps) then it is also a firearm. If it discharges at greater than 500fps then it is a firearm for the purpose of registration.

When I worked within this system I was always ticked off at the police who insisted on this law when there were already laws on the books that addressed using 'anything' (a stick, pipe, etc) as a weapon, was illegal - then refusing to enforce it when requested. I pushed for the repeal of this specific section but was (pardon the pun) shot down.

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Old 17-06-13, 17:25
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If the gun shoots over 500 feet per second, and has over 5.7 joules of force, then it is considered a firearm that requires the possessor to have a license. But if it is under 500 fps, but can cause bodily harm, then it is a firearm that does not need the possessor to be licensed. If it shoots under 366 (recently reduced from 400 fps) and closely copies the look of a real firearm, then it is a replica. Replicas are in a special prohibited class in Canada.

That was because too often, Canada's misguided youth would use them for fundraising efforts, during which the police would often shoot these misguided youth. The mother would then wail that the police should have checked the gun first or else shot it out of their had before shooting their poor son, who was just turning their life around.

As a result of these events, the chiefs of police in Canada requested that replicas be banned for sale, manufacture, and import.

Deactivated firearms, however, are in their own class. They do not require registration, safe storage, transport regulations, and can be bought or sold to anyone. They are usually expensive, however, which is probably why the poor misguided youth don't get into trouble with them.

Clear as mud?
Hmmm I fail to see the downside of the above scenario. What were the mothers complaining about?
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Old 16-06-13, 13:16
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Evike .com sells Replica Stens and Thompsons BAR Rifles ect...

just buy from a Canadian retailer. Avoid the shipping and customs issues. There are number of retailers with there products in stock.

here is a link to a local retailer that I have dealt with

http://www.ventureairsoft.ca/
http://www.ventureairsoft.ca/item.ph...a131c66cbe5846

The local re-enactors have purchased numerous items for use at events and I usually set up a firing range at the Halifax Citadel with various WWII guns. Big hit with both the kids and parents.
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Old 16-06-13, 21:01
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I posted this last Night but the post seems to have been Deleted
Hello Jeff,

It wasn't deleted but moved to the Sergeants' Mess. Just like I have done with your new thread by merging it with the first one.

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Old 17-06-13, 03:40
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Thanks Hanno I cannot see the forest for the Trees sometimes
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Old 17-06-13, 19:04
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Thanks Hanno I cannot see the forest for the Trees sometimes
Jeff,

No problem, that's why us moderators are here - to guide you through the forest

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