Dodge 3 tonner

[Anthony Main]

Did Dodge Canada make a 3 ton 4x4 for use in the British Army in WW2 ?

[cliff]

Not to my knowledge. All the 'D' series MCP Dodge trucks from 15cwt to 3 ton were 4X2.

[David_Hayward (RIP)]

I agree that there are no known 3 ton 4x4s to British order.
L 5875076 to 5877075 under SM 6257 for 'LORRY 3-TON
4 X 4? G/S' must be a mistake and were 4 X 2 D60L/D T-110-L-9???

[gordon]

You hesitate to say 'never' but that's pretty close.

Dodge production was all light truck, half ton to three ton, but the vast majority was 1/2, 3/4, 1.5 ton in the US and up to 3 ton 4 x 2 in Canada.
That batch David quotes was two thousand trucks, and any 4 x 4, 3 ton produced at that rate would have been mentioned somewhere else before now.

Intersting possibilities that might apply to the discussion;

The WK60, a 3 ton 6 x 4 Welles-Thornton conversion, which must have made about that quantity.

Any prototype CMP Dodge D60 that were made. Colin has one photograph of a conventional CMP 13 cab made by Dodge, so no reason why any prototypes couldn't have included a Dodge version of the C60 / F60, but if they did they didn't make it into production quantities.

Dodge three tonners came as heavy or light 4 x 2 configuration, with Canadian D60 T110L series being much lighter trucks with 236 cu in engine, and the early war VK60 series heavy duty US built with 331 cu in engine like the later Burma Dodges. I've not seen any front axles that would support a 3 ton Dodge 4 x 4 as either heavy or light configuration though, just 4 x 2.

[David_Hayward (RIP)]

L 4552457 to 4553198 SM 2023 LORRY 3-TON 6 X 4 BREAKDOWN [GANTRY] 168” w.b. [from Chrysler Corp. of Canada] E.g. L 4552511 1940-41 CANADIAN DCM-4? With Welles-Thornton rear bogie Serials # 8,300,001 – 8,300,742?

The prototype photo if it's the same one is of a 'D15A'.

I had a sudden thought that I have the complete parts list references so can check to see if there were ever any 3-ton 4 x 4s listed for US, Canadian and British order.

[gordon]

Originally Posted by David_Hayward

The prototype photo if it's the same one is of a 'D15A'.

I had a sudden thought that I have the complete parts list references so can check to see if there were ever any 3-ton 4 x 4s listed for US, Canadian and British order.

It'll be the same photo, but if you have a close look at it you can see the front hubs are not driven, so it is really just a CMP version of the D15, with no 'A' for 4 x 4.

I have the US Master Parts List here and a number of US and Canadian manuals and smaller parts lists - no references to a 3 ton 4 x 4.