Workshop Trucks

[Pete Ashby]

Hello Les

do you have similar detailed information for the workshop bodies fitted to the 6x4 3 ton range of trucks ?

regards

Pete

[PPS]

It is a long time since I saw a page from EMER's.

I cannot remember what they call them now, but I remember trying to wade my way through them to find details of various vehicles whilst in the R.E.M.E.

Paul.

Originally posted by Les Freathy
Hi Richard

Another man of Kent EH! send me a PM of your location you cant be more than an hour from me.

Do you know the type of workshop body your Ford has, probably difficult with so little in it i have posted these images of a typeB and type X the layouts will at least give you a fighting chance of building the kit in the body. Funny there is no mention in the listing on these ref gas bottles, this may have been a post war addition as these images are dated 1948 and i very much doubt that any were carried out at this time. Some of the Fords served on untill the late 1960s by which time some mods were carried out. Hope this Helps

Noel i thought i had seen nearly all on machinery trucks but that photo is a gem, never seen it before, like you i suspect bodies from crossleys but these look like army rather than RAF trucks, amazing stuff now the research has to go on
cheers
Les

[Les Freathy]

Yea your right on that Cliff thought i was being to clever overwriting items and seem to have lost the plot somwhere. Here is the type X.

Pete the answer is yes, dont have them all but a fair number what are you looking for
cheers
Les

[Les Freathy]

Richard had a quick look through one of the workshop files and found this, it would appear to be the type you are looking for as you can see the gas bottles in the rear corner of this post war truck. Hope it helps
cheers
Les

[David Potter]

Les,

On the workshop front (your reply to Pete Ashby), do you have layout for 6x4 Type K (forge & welding)? I know that they were pretty well replaced by 15cwt KL in 1944 but some engineer units still seem to have had 3 ton 6x4 Type K in service; presumeably mainly on Leyland chassis?

Any info (layout and 44-45 era images) of 6x4 Type K would be greatly appreciated!

David

[Noel Burgess]

Interesting that the page posted by Les states that the X role “renders obsolete role Q & role E and M”
I had previously understood that :-
Role X was “Royal Engineers Heavy Workshop”
Role E and M was “General Engineering & MT repair”
Role Q is a new one to me?

Is there a definitive list of Machinery Lorry Roles and Descriptions?

I also note that all the 4x4 images posted by Les show a narrow tailgate forming steps (which is what I expected) but both my posts show full width tailgates?

Les, I too would be most interested in any other details of 4x4 or 6x4 workshop bodies that you are willing to share – through the forum or privately

Noel

[Neil Ashley]

If this is of any interest it shows Fordson Workshop Trucks for sale in a 1961 Ruddington Catalogue

[Richard Hughes]

Les

That last picture looks like it could well be similar . So the cut out in the centre tailgate is a post war mod . Would the floor have been completly taken out and re setup for revised tools when it went back for refit at workshops as well ??

Neil thanks for the Ruddington info as well all good stuff

Richard Hughes

[Les Freathy]

David, type K are indeed a bit on the rare side but i think this is the one you want it has the electric welder under the bench and the anvils are the give away.

The layout includes= electric welder, welding and cutting torchesx2, plant, welding controller, portable forges x2, blacksmith kits anvils and blocks and a switch board not sure where that is fitted as i cannot see it on the photo
cheers
Les

[David Potter]

Les,

Thank you for Type K info; the welding plant looks very similar to Murex unit fitted to British 15cwt KL.

David

[Noel Burgess]

Here's an IWM photo from Korea. It shows a woodworking lorry with Universal Woodworking macine - is that a Retriever or similar 6x4 it's mounted on?
Noel

[Richard Hughes]

I attach some pictures of the rear of my workshop lorry as you can see it has the post war (??) tail gate and the work bench that is permantently attached.

Richard Hughes

[Noel Burgess]

Richard
I believe that the narrow tail gate with integral steps was the norm on British war time bodies (6x4 & 4x4).

I intended to ask why those that I posted did not have this feature - which I would have expected them to have

Noel

[Richard Farrant]

Originally posted by Noel Burgess
Richard
I believe that the narrow tail gate with integral steps was the norm on British war time bodies (6x4 & 4x4).

I intended to ask why those that I posted did not have this feature - which I would have expected them to have

Noel,

By coincidence, Richard Hughes and I have been discussing this tonight.

The narrow tailgate was only on workshop bodies. The two photos with full width drop tailboards that you refered to on an earlier message are not workshop bodies of this pattern, the first was an Albion 4x4 and appeared to have a normal GS body, the other was a similar body to the breakdown gantry, but was a Royal Engineers workshop, the gantry was for lifting some of the equipment out, in order to operate them.

[Geoff Robinson]

Hi everyone,
I have found a nice 15A KL which I am in the process of buying. It will be my first CMP and I am excited to undertake the project.
I was happy to find this thread with all the excellent photos which will really help me out. As I progress, I will post some pics.
The truck in question is mostly complete and retains the original deck with bins, etc. The welder is missing of course but not of too much importance to me. I am sure I will soon be asking everyones advice and expertise.

Cheers,

Geoff

[Alex Blair (RIP)]

Originally posted by Geoff Robinson
Hi everyone,
I have found a nice 15A KL which I am in the process of buying. It will be my first CMP and I am excited to undertake the project.
I was happy to find this thread with all the excellent photos which will really help me out. As I progress, I will post some pics.
The truck in question is mostly complete and retains the original deck with bins, etc. The welder is missing of course but not of too much importance to me. I am sure I will soon be asking everyones advice and expertise.

Cheers,

Geoff

Good find ...Try to track that welder down..It's worth 4X's the truck price..
Find it and steal it if you have too..They are rare ...
Good luck..Keep us in the loop..

[Bill Mulholland]

Originally Posted by Alex Blair

Good find ...Try to track that welder down..It's worth 4X's the truck price..
Find it and steal it if you have too..They are rare ...
Good luck..Keep us in the loop..

G'Day Brother Al; Me Too! I am also trying to track down a welder for the back of my KL - you should "acquire" me the one from down the street. It would be a bit of a bugger hauling it home on the bike however.
Cheers, Bill

[Alex Blair (RIP)]

Originally Posted by Bill Mulholland

G'Day Brother Al; Me Too! I am also trying to track down a welder for the back of my KL - you should "acquire" me the one from down the street. It would be a bit of a bugger hauling it home on the bike however.
Cheers, Bill

Uncle Bill!!
How are ya too...bye..!!
I thought you floated away..You must be on waterfront property,from the looks of that old river down in Brums'ik...
Post some pictures of your place and the river..
Bet the old Diamond "T" was the first thing headed for high ground..
Good to see you here.

[Noel Burgess]

Here's something from the site I have just posted about elsewhere http://cgsc.leavenworth.army.mil/car...entdm/home.htm
It's the manual - sorry it's the Handbook for "Artilery Repair Truck Body Model 1918". Wonderfull reading - especially the period language and very comprehensive as it includes photos and listing of the contents of every tool drawer.

[Ryan]

Guys, what is a Ford Light D workshop truck?
Can anyone show me a photo of or at least tell me if it is based on a Blitz?

[Geoff Robinson]

I will do my best. I have a feeling that the welder is likely located on a farm near to the remains of my truck. Wish me luck!

[Richard Farrant]

Originally posted by Neil Ashley
If this is of any interest it shows Fordson Workshop Trucks for sale in a 1961 Ruddington Catalogue

Neil,


In your Ruddington catalogue, is there any more WOT6 machy wagons listed, namely one, 38 YX 55 ? The description lists equipment carried, so to trace this actual vehicle, would answer questions on what kit was carried.

[Neil Ashley]

Give me a few days to check as they these vehicles were released over several years.

The equipment could have course been replaced during post-war
rebuilds.

[Richard Farrant]

Originally posted by Neil Ashley
Give me a few days to check as they these vehicles were released over several years.

The equipment could have course been replaced during post-war
rebuilds.

Thanks Neil,

Not sure when this one was released, but quite agree, the kit it carried may have been changed to suit needs in postwar service. Some evidence is present.

[Neil Ashley]

Richard

The closest number I have found is 38YX54 released in March 1961.

It carried a Denham Lathe, Grimston type EB Bench Drill, Valve Refacer and a Generator.

Denham Laths seem the most common in this catalogue with a few Regals. Other Bench Drill makes include Black and Decker, Ajax and Corona.

[Richard Farrant]

Originally posted by Neil Ashley
Richard

The closest number I have found is 38YX54 released in March 1961.

It carried a Denham Lathe, Grimston type EB Bench Drill, Valve Refacer and a Generator.

Neil,

Thanks, that could not be much closer! I think that is pretty much what was carried on this one, from marks on the bench which is still fitted.

[Neil Ashley]

Could this be a generator from a workshop truck.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/stationary-eng...QQcmdZViewItem

[Richard Farrant]

Originally Posted by Neil Ashley

Could this be a generator from a workshop truck.

Hi Neil,

Judging by the Eau-de-Nil paint, it looks like it was in a workshop truck. I was not aware that it was a Meadows engine, thought they could have been Coventry Climax, but that was only an assumption. According to the 1951 War Office book, REME Vol 2 - Technical, the Type X machinery truck on 3 ton 4x4 chassis, had a 5kw gen set, but it also shows that 9kw sets were mounted in 15cwt 4x2 trucks.

[John Sliz]

What does the "KL" stand for?

[S LATHERON (RIP)]

Keep Locked. In case there a border raid !!