Ok..what Is It?

[Richard Farrant]

Tony,

Slept on it and had another thought.....it was the red paint that gave it away ( I think ? ). It is a NZ Pattern Wheeled Carrier that has been converted to a Forestry Fire Tender. Do I get a prize for this ?

Probably way out.

Richard

[Tony Smith]

Drop Bear badges to both Keith and Richard! It started out in life as a rear engined Armoured Car chassis, to which the New Zealanders built their own bodies patterned on the Indian design. These proved underpowered and had poor off road performance, so were offered to the NZ Forestry service who converted them into "Quad Tankers" and "Quad Pumpers". That bloody bushfire red paint gets everywhere!
I found this arrangement quite interesting for a couple of mechanical reasons:
Broken rule no 1: Being a Ford transfer case, the shifter bracket is not bolted to the side of the case. It is operated by a series of linkages from the front of the vehicle.
Broken rule no 2: The rear facing part of the case has the cover (as usual), but the case now slopes down to the left side of the vehicle. Why redesign a whole new case, why not just turn it back-to-front?
Broken rule no 3: As there is no provision in the case to reverse the rotation of the input from the engine, the axles have been flipped over to rotate the other way. This means that the diff centres are on the left side of the vehicle, unique amongst CMPs.

Have we no GM rear engined Armoured Car owners out there to compare the GM version?

Picture below is of a C011QRF chassis ex Canada destined for India (10.50-16 tyres):

[Tony Smith]

NZ Armoured Car built on C191QRF chassis (10.50-20 tyres):

[Tony Smith]

And the final incarnation, the Quad Tanker:

[Richard Farrant]

Originally posted by Tony Smith
Drop Bear badges to both Keith and Richard!

Tony,

Great ! Always wanted one

After my first reply I went to bed and for a little light reading, picked up an early '90's Wheels & Tracks, low and behold an article on NZ wheeled carriers and the Frestry conversions. Thought someone would have got thee before me though.

Richard

[Alex Blair (RIP)]

Originally posted by DUUANE
OK...I CANT SEE ANY MARKS AT ALL.
HERE'S SOME MORE PICS.
THE PREVIOUS OWNER SWEARS IT'S A '40 OR '41 MODEL.
HE ALSO SAID THAT HE KNOWS WHERE ANOTHER ONE IS CLOSE TO HIM THAT I CAN GET FOR THE SAME DEAL.

Hi Mr.D..
I had a guy that worked for me named Dwayne...
I had another Polish guy that couldn't say Dwayne and it came out as Dwiggen...so that is my story..
Grab that extra truck and check aroungd where it was parked for any bits and ppieces..even if you don't know what they are throw them in..
Get an parts and maintenance manual and you are away..
THese ones..

#27: 388 pages
NEW MB-F1
FORD OPERATION, MAINTENANCE AND REPAIR, CMP, Jan. '42.
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#30: 388 pages
F60L-01
FORD CANADA, ILLUS., PARTS LIST FOR F-60L, 3-Ton 4x4, 158 1/4" WB, CDN. Mil. Pattern, (Old & New Design). (Dec.'42)
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Contact me of line for manuals,if required..
http://www.dana-nield.com/dnn/Defaul....com/dnn/blair

[Richard Coutts-Smith]

Harking back to earlier on in this thread re. differences to transfer cases. Anyone ever notice that the speedo drive/idler cover (2 speed box at least) have a different bolt pattern and are one of the few bits not interchangable ?
cheers

[David_Hayward (RIP)]

At this juncture I am suggesting that Ford Canada produced their own transfer cases based on the McKinnon one, itself based on the Timken-Detroit originals.


!

Anyone ever notice that the speedo drive/idler cover (2 speed box at least) have a different bolt pattern and are one of the few bits not interchangable ?

Obviously there was a considerable degree of interchangeability which reflects my suggestion but clearly there were also aspects that did not interchange.