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![]() Last edited by Hanno Spoelstra; 05-04-09 at 00:00. Reason: attached pictures for future reference |
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...can be found on: Don Allen's / 8Hussar's Photobucket
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Oh Man! Would it ever be fun to have an Armoured Snowmobile in Winnipeg tonight!!!
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An Exercise Musk Ox Penguin (converted from a Cdn Armoured Snowmobile) had survived (complete less one track) and went to the Bombardier Museum in Quebec. This was an epic voyage in winter from Churchill Manitoba, up North (as far as Cambridge Bay for 3 machines including #8, and then dolwn to Edmonton.
I later found out that a large "8" was found painted inside a roof hatch, which means that in all likelyhood that this was the # 8 machine on Exercise Musk Ox (only 15 machines were apaprently converted). This would have made it the machine commanded by Captain Bob Inglis - my late father-in-law! Sadly the museum told me years later that they have scrapped it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Perhaps someone can confirm its fate? If it survives, it SHOULD go to the Canadian War Museum.
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That would be a horrible reality! Bruce parker posted a few pics of it in Armoured snowmo?, which I believe originally came from/via you. Can any can add any further information? Regards, Hanno
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Here's some snowmobile pictures in Exercise Muskox from the Google Life site.
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1940 Cab 11 C8 Wireless with 1A2 box & 11 set 1940 Cab 11 C8 cab and chassis 1940 Cab 11 C15 with 2A1 & Motley mount & Lewis gun 1940 Cab 11 F15A w/ Chev rear ends 1941 Cab 12 F15A 1942-44 Cab 13 F15A x 5 1942 cab 13 F15A with 2B1 box 1943 cab 13 F15A with 2H1 box 1943 Cab 13 C8A HUP 1944 Cab 13 C15A with 2C1 box 1943 Cletrac M2 High Speed Tractor MkII Bren gun carrier chassis x 2 |
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Hanno's pic showed a Muskeg carrier( engine in front) with tilting deck,drive shaft behind cab runs a cmp style winch.They have a transfer case in the back powering the winch and a driveshaft heading to the T16 diff in front. The red muskeg pictured is a tractor (engine is mounted to the rear). The armoured bombardier's had no rails to support the Boogies(must have been very heavy axles) but I have read of them being bent on their Arctic excursions. The 2 axles on the Muskeg are around 1"1/2 they need the rail for support. They are a great machine,maybe Bombardier should have used the whole axle assembly from the T16 in his design,instead of building a box to hold the diff(which is a water collector).Regardless of that these ''antiques'' which I and many others still use, designed 50 plus years ago are a testament to the '' vision'' of Bombardier.
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For those who haven't seen it, the National Film Board had a film online titled "Ordeal By Ice" which has good footage of the Armoured Snomobiles in use, and very short clips of an M7 Show Tractor and Weasel being tested.
http://nfb.ca/film/ordeal_by_ice Enjoy Gord |
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When this thread started, seven years ago, I asked for an author for the Penguin and/or Armoured Snowmobile. At the time I bragged that I had published three titles in the Weapons of War series.
Fast forward to 2010. There are now 27 titles in the series with another dozen in the pipeline. BUT, I still don't have an author for this one. Any takers?
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Those who live by the sword will be shot by those of us who have progressed. - M38A1, 67-07800, ex LETE |
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That was a real find, now I'll spend a couple of hours exploring what else the NFB has when I could be out in the cold working on the trucks. Let me see 10 F with 30 mph wind, wonder how long it will take to get the shop from 40F to 60F. Just watching that film makes me shiver. Cheers Phil
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They used a few Bombardiers on the Snowy Mountains Scheme in the 50s. I guess they were post war. This one photographed at the Cooma rally in 2009.
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