surviving T16s

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Originally posted by Alex van de Wetering
Last weekend I visited the "Tanks in Town" event in Mons, Belgium and among the vehicles, was a T16 carrier. Sadly I wasn't able to take any pictures, but this seems like the same carrier:

Thanks Alex, and yes it is indeed the same carrier. T16 s/n 11644 T103640 lives in Belgium, it can also be seen at Wings & Wheels.

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Originally posted by Alex van de Wetering
The T16 of the Eede-monument in its present condition....

I was quite surprised to see that some of the dashboard and interior fittings were still in place...

Good to see it repainted! I take it the open top is still welded shut? Pity it still sports that silly "heardboard"...

H.

[Alex van de Wetering]

Yes Hanno. It is still welded shut, the rear completely and the front compartment from about halfway.

It looked like it had been spray-painted (all-over) not too long ago.

Alex

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Fred Ropkey's T16: Ropkey Armor Museum, Crawfordville, USA (source).

H.

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Though not listed on their inventory, this was T16 pictured by militarymodelling.com at the Wheatcroft Collection:

[Hanno Spoelstra]

T16 at Eden Camp, UK (pic source).

[Hanno Spoelstra]

A T16 found rusting at Hartbeesport zoo in South Africa.

Source: http://www.69dude.co.uk/gallery2/main.php?g2_itemId=248

[Hanno Spoelstra]

One of a few T16's surviving in France at the ASSOCIATION DE SAUVEGARDE DU PATRIMOINE HISTORIQUE MILITAIRE. They have quite an extensive collection of vehicles.

According to the data plate it is s/n 10274 and WD no. T102186-S. For some reason it is marked USA 4074468.

[pablo50cal]

1) another pictures of my carrier
now I need to remuve the engine because its making bad noise
I need to change the metals

2) two years ago

3) another place araund here , but dont make ilusions the people ho have tree carrier dont sale .

4) my carrier

5) dont forget me
pablo from argentina t16 n13588

[horsa]

T-16 on display at a muesum in South Africa. A friend posted the shots but I don't know where it is right now. Will update this posting with details once they are known.

It appears the engine exhaust is being routed out the side of the armour hull.

[centi521.]

us t-16 swiss version

he's one of 3 t-16 in switzerland (2 have the army and this one )

[andrew honychurch]

what about this serial number then/??

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http://www.asphm.com/vehicules/unive...ier_t16_17.jpg

point being, Adrian, that this original plate has a T number not a TD. I think there is some misunderstandings going on here! Not sure what is correct and what each nomenclature means?

[ajmac]

As Adrian said the war department number, for anything tracked, the 'T' number, originated in England, when an order was placed a block of numbers was allocated to that contract, I have seen some of the Loyd Carrier contract cards held by the tank museum earlier in the year, there may be T16 cards too. What does nigels carrier book volume 2 say, his section on loyds in volume 1 has all the WD number lists for loyds.
The data plate would have had the WD number stamped on it as well as a vehicle serial number which was unique to the manufacturer, the T16 parts book refers to change points using the vehicle serial number. It goes on to say:
vehicle serial numbers were first assigned to each hull when fabricated rather than the final assembled vehicle, this number prefixed by FS should be stamped on the transmission and final drive housing. After hull number 1000 the vehicles were assigned a serial number without prefix or suffix, it was stamped on the top upper right hand front plate also transmission case and final drive. So you should be able to have a stab at your vehicle serial number my havin a look in these places...obviously be careful of parts that may have been replaced in service.

I presume the TD part is perhaps a corruption of the T number, I have seen a Loyd data plate stamped CTxxxx, which doesn't exist in the wartime contract cards, however the vehicle fitted the bill for being the number without the C. Like all of these things not as black and White as it first seems :-)

[horsa]

Going through old photos from a trip to Normandy done 5-6 years ago, I came across some of a T-16 in one of the small museums. Its been restored and repainted so maybe this should really be in the Surviving T-16s message thread.

Sign indicates a British T-16 from the 2nd Canadian Infantry Division. Markings at the bottom have FS and July 1944. Not sure if that indicates when it landed, was destroyed or something else. Anyone familiar with French abbreviations like this?

[Alex van de Wetering]

David,

Great pictures! I recognize the museum.....it's the Bayeux memorial before the owner of most of the material removed his belongings after an argument with the museum staff.

Alex

[Maurice Donckers]

The Carrier in Bayeux , came from Pounds , and was not a left over from the battles , They also got the M10 and Churchill from there.

[Hanno Spoelstra]

T16 in the Militärmuseum Full, Zwitserland - see www.militaer-museum.ch. Reportedly a new addition to the Museum's inventory, it will require a full restoration (one of its previous owners tried to paint it in the Caunter camouflage scheme?).

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http://www.flickr.com/photos/massimo...7624088553191/

[Hanno Spoelstra]

T16-based supply vehicle / runabout at Port-aux-Français, French Southern and Antarctic Lands.

http://www.panoramio.com/photo/7219744

Must be the most Southernly located Universal Carrier?!?

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"Comments (1) | JLH974 on March 1, 2008
Ancienne chenillette installée devant le premier bâtiment de la météo à Port-Aux-Français qui sert maintenant de bibliothèque."

[Lynn Eades]

The Falklands island one is at approx 51 degrees south. (More down around the corner than 49 degrees south)

[Hanno Spoelstra]

T16 in the Biafran Musuem, Umuahia Ibeku, Abia, Nigeria.

Looks like an ex-Swiss example with raised sides. Battle damage in rear right hand corner?

[Hanno Spoelstra]

T16 at the Randfontein War Memorial, South Africa.

Source: http://www.allatsea.co.za/mygallery/...ygallery01.htm

[Hanno Spoelstra]

No idea if this is still there....

"Ford T16 Universal Carrier. Blackgang Chine, Isle of Wight 1980's"

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