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07-02-06, 00:45
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???????? Australia ?? or maybe it was buried, why? contaminated perhaps. Ah, I know, it fell down an old mineshaft.  Richard 
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08-02-06, 00:13
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Mine shaft was quite close. At one time it was in The Grange Cavern Museum, Clwyd, North Wales about 20 years ago. The mine was 100 ft below the surface & was mined out in early 1800s. It was all fun & spooky being down there, but it was so damp. A disaterous idea to store vehicles in such an environment. They had a number of interesting vehicles including a Hornet even.
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12-02-06, 20:42
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It looks like a Mk1, or in other words, not uparmoured. Unless it was made for a film job, I was not aware that Flying Pigs were anything else than Uparmoured versions. Another reason could be that it was from one of the training camps in England, as there was no chance of it being shot at, there. It looks like it has been demobbed as the census number has been removed, could be in a dealers yard? Go on, shoot me down with a Malkara, probably wrong  Richard
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12-02-06, 22:11
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Richard you are quite correct, this indeed in the normal meaning of things, a Mk 1. People seem to assume that a pig with a barricade pusher is a Mk 2 ie uparmoured which this clearly isn't.
This pig was one 200 recovered from dealers & scrapyards for use in N.Ireland. The barricade pusher was fitted to most of the Mk1s & Mk2s. The rams were designed also to be fitted to Saracens, though in practice this didn't happen. The EMER for this mod was issued in 1975. This is the only Mk 1 Flying Pig I have seen ie fitted with defensive screens. The EMER for this was issued in 1976. This pig has an unusual feature in that on the tops of the rear doors fold down. I assume that this would allow troops to observe and fire from the rear. There is evidence that there were rear facing seats to faclitiate this. I have only seen one other pig with this type of rear seating & where rear door flaps had been fitted. It is in my garage, but on mine the rear flaps have been welded up. So it was not a success I assume. I took the picture in an ordnance dealers yard about 20 years ago. There were several Mk2 Pigs, 20 Shorlands & 20 Salidins.
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18-02-06, 18:41
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Bad photo, but the guy on the extreme left looks familiar, is his name Jones? Richard
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01-03-06, 00:59
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It would appear to be a RUC Pig, but the barricade bar on it is rather unusual. Richard
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01-03-06, 01:15
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This is the first type of barricade ram used on pigs. It is not only slightly snowplough shaped but its height is adjustable. Very ingenious. But what model of pig is it & why do you say its an RUC one? Clive
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01-03-06, 01:31
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Richard PS If I get this right, do I win a can of insecticide?? 
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01-03-06, 08:49
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01-03-06, 23:09
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Yes it 3071 EZ. But when you say it is a Mk1. Do you mean as in production Mk 1 ie FV1611 or do you mean Mk 1 as in FV1609 like mine which is the true Mk 1 ? Why? Do you need some inseticide? Have you got green fly? Clive
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01-03-06, 23:40
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That would be the FV1609 that the RUC were issued with. What makes you think I've got greenfly????? Richard
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04-03-06, 00:08
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There were ten FV1609s issued to the RUC in late 1958. During 1960 they were all fitted with an armoured roof, loosely based on the FV1611. These pigs were in the sequence 2986 OI to 3001 OI. In 1962 2986 OI was destroyed & replaced by this FV1611. Some modifications were made: Windscreen visors with horizontal slits. Strong wire mesh protection over windscreens. Painted Light Admiralty Grey Front & rear foglights The characteristics that show it to be a FV1611 rather than a FV1609 are: Rails on roof for canvas Square not rounded headlight covers Aerial base support is thicker Fittings where wipers were fiited (on FV1609 they are inside) Pistol ports are more substantial Bridge plate 3071 EZ was fitted with an adjustable barricade ram & painted in Rustoleum Green. It always seemed to be the pig that was used in front line in preference to the other FV1609 based pigs of which some had barricade rams. Here it can be seen covered in paint & being petrol bombed.  A unique & interesting vehicle that then entered Army serice in 1971 with the registration 27 BT 91 and was struck off census again in 1980.
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21-03-06, 09:11
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A couple more photos of the Pig in N.I the first trio show the differing types of crash clearance frames fitted, what is that thing poking out of the top hatch on the right facing the photo
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21-03-06, 09:12
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Second photo is a armoured ambulance
cheers Les
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21-03-06, 12:00
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Nice shots there Les. Interestingly they are all Mk 1 despite the barricade rams which were fitted to both Mk1 & Mk2.
The thing at the top is a light, they were also fitted to Rovers.  The other stuff on the roof is a roll of barbed wire & a frame for a road sign for VCPs etc The Mk1 ambulance is nice, but when it was uparmoured to Mk2 spec that one became an APC.
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