Ford engine number decoder

[Keith Webb]

I'm sure this has been covered elsewhere in the forum but I can't seem to find it.

I've been doing some research at the AWM looking at the vehicle registration books and note a lot of the 42 year CMPs have a mix of the standard 3G prefixed numbers ending in F and there are also a large number prefixed 99TF and I was wondering whether the 'F' was for 4 speed gearbox.

I should have asked Tony yesterday afternoon.

[Mike K]

Keith

I think in the case of engine numbers F stands for foreign , or export market ? But your question relates to something else I suspect . Its beyond me .

Mike

[Tony Smith]

The "99TF-" engines fitted to a series of Aust F15A Trucks were US manufactured 1939 Mercury Truck engines. The "F" is an engineering code for RHD vehicles.

[Bob Moseley (RIP)]

The following comes from a publication called Fast Moving Parts for all Ford Products 1928-1946 Catalogue. I picked it up out of Ebay and on the inside cover was the name of the owner, G.H.Jopson, Melford Motors, 621 Elizabeth St, Melbourne.

The decoder is as follows using a random sample number of
C016TF-2265A

C - represents Canadian design
0 - represents the model year for which the part was designed'
8=1938, 9=1939, 0=1940, 1=1941, 2=1942, 3=1943,
4=1944, 5=1945, etc
1 - represents the engine type
1=85H.P. V-8, 2=60H.P. V-8, 9=95H.P. V-8
6 - represents the vehicle wheelbase
1=101" W.B., 8=158" W.B., 6=176" W.B., 4=194" W.B.
Wheelbase is not specified for 134".
T specifies the type of vehicle, A-Passenger, B-Bus,
C-Commercial, D-3/4 Ton, T-Regular Truck, U-Dump,
V-Drop Frame, W-Cab-Over-Engine, Y-1 Ton.
F - designates right-hand drive.

The 2265 designates basic part number and also group number, namely, Brakes. In this case the A relates to Passenger 1928-31.

Thereis more decoding information but relates only to Group Numbers and Years and Models.

Therefore Keefy I believe the F stands for Right-hand drive.

Bob

[Bob Moseley (RIP)]

Hope you can interpret my Post. Unfortunately when you Post, the original formatting of the Post is lost and it becomes somewhat garbled. Maybe something that needs to be worked on by the Boss.
Bob

[David_Hayward (RIP)]

1940:

FORD
01A 1A1/1A2F
01C COMMERCIAL 1B1/1B2F

MERCURY
09A 1D1/1D2F
09C COMMERCIAL 1E1/1E2F
09T TRUCK 1G1/1G2F

FORD 60HP
022A 1H1/1H2F
022 COMMERCIAL 1I1/1I2F
022 TRUCK 1J1/1J2F


1941 is the same except prefixed "2" instead of "1", and then 1942, 1943, 1944 and 1945 followed, but all 1945 CMPs had 5GF prefixes as there were not "1945" engines used.

Plus:
1941
T.L.


In addition we know that some Dearborn-built engines were used. From my notes:

All Canadian-built Ford engines in C.M.P. trucks are prefixed with *G and suffixed with “2F”. The prefix number denotes the engine model year, e.g. 1G is 1940, 2G is 1941, etc.: the “G” denotes a Mercury 32.50 h.p. truck engine fitted with a four-speed gearbox. The suffix “2F” means an export engine for Right hand drive vehicles. Starting number was # 1G-175 on 1 November 1939, and the last 1940 Model unit was # 1G-11500 on 1 October 1940; 1941 Models started at # 2G-205 on 1 October 1940 and ended at # 2G-48148 on 1 November 1941. The last known, so far, engine number is from a late 1945 F.60L, # 5G-11449F. American engines usually have an engine number like this one: 99TF562348. Ford V-8 engine numbers are not stamped on the engine itself but are stamped on the clutch housing