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Jordan, they are called " biflocated" rivets(not sure about the spelling)
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Bluebell Carrier Armoured O.P. No1 Mk3 W. T84991 Carrier Bren No2.Mk.I. NewZealand Railways. NZR.6. Dodge WC55. 37mm Gun Motor Carriage M6 Jeep Mb #135668 So many questions.... |
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Hi all, I have been making the bren mag pouch over the last couple of nights at work, I borrowed an original to copy, I made from it from a mouse eaten signal satcheal bag and a canvas water bucket cut up. Pretty sure this was designed for a single bren magazine. I put it through the washing macine on a 95 degrees wash with some hevily soiled overalls to try and fade it a little and blend the different canvas colours together, it made the leather edging look old too. I will post up some dimensions. I have a picture of the 2pdr tank hunter carrier and this was fitted to it.
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2pdr Tank Hunter Universal Carrier 1942 registered 11/11/2008. 3" Mortar Universal Carrier 1943 registered 06/06/2009. 1941 Standard Mk1 stowage Carrier, Caunter camo. 1941 Standard Mk1 stowage Carrier, light stone. 10 cwt wartime mortar trailer. 1943 Mk2 Daimler Dingo. 1943 Willys MB. 1936 Vickers MG carrier No1 Mk1 CMM 985. |
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Nice job Kevin.
I still say it is designed to contain two boys mags. It is far too sloppy a fit for one or two bren mags, and it is very unlike the British to design a bag which would have so much wasted space. Since this thread started, I have now managed to come up with 6 or seven boys mags, still not enough to fill a boys mag chest, but enough to test the theroy of the two mags in the pouch. I had hoped to produce a number of these pouches, but life and other priorities get in the way. I ended up buying plain white canvas and dying it to the proper colour. Worked pretty good, except that I have to dye the canvas first, then sew it into a pouch. If you make the pouch first, the colour does not make it into the seams. I did manage to make up a bunch of the metal brackets and the wood backing, and found the proper rivets at a supply shop in Winnipeg. I even took the time to stamp the Ford part numbers and the year into the metal and the wood, although in all likelihood they would never be seen again once mounted into a carrier. |
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Hi Rob, I would think it is designed for a single bren magazine for a number of reasons, firstly this pouch is designed to provide the gunner with a magazine quickly whilst he is forward in the firing position, providing a quick continuation of rapid fire the bren gun can provide, No reason to have two mags in there as already mentioned in this thread, the other one would fall out when getting the other one. The rate of fire of a boys rifle is much slower and another mag could easily be retreaved from the ammo bins, I can only conclude the mag pouch is placed in the position it is in to provide sucession of rapid fire, secondly i have a picture from Bovington tank museum of a 2 pounder carrier fitted with this pouch and a bren gun stowed in the upright position. Also not knowing too much about the boys rifle wouldnt a clip of boys ammo be in the pouch without it's mag?, if it was designed for the boys rifle ammo?.
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2pdr Tank Hunter Universal Carrier 1942 registered 11/11/2008. 3" Mortar Universal Carrier 1943 registered 06/06/2009. 1941 Standard Mk1 stowage Carrier, Caunter camo. 1941 Standard Mk1 stowage Carrier, light stone. 10 cwt wartime mortar trailer. 1943 Mk2 Daimler Dingo. 1943 Willys MB. 1936 Vickers MG carrier No1 Mk1 CMM 985. Last edited by kevin powles; 02-11-09 at 17:12. Reason: Oh, those pictures i took make the two pouches look different sizes, they are infact exactly the same size. |
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Kevin,
Have you more measurement info. on the mag pouches than what is in the thumbnail, if so, could I obtain it from you? As well, the board, and the metal strap info.? Thanks, Doug |
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TL 12994, Case, spare magazine.
One of those seldom encountered in original, serviceable condition. |
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