Ram WD census numbers

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Originally posted by servicepub
As of Sunday at 18:30 EDT, here is where I am at.

Excellent!

But, beware not to introduce designations like Ram IIa, IIb, etc. as these never existed. Sure, there were many production changes, but changes in hull and turret types did not happen at the same time. If you want to list them all, you will end up with several pages of production changes only of interest to the Ram tank anorak (been there, done that 10 years ago).

Note: the upkeep of html code is extremely labour intensive, I think it would be easier to use a spreadsheet or database and generate html code from that.


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[servicepub (RIP)]

Originally posted by Hanno Spoelstra
But, beware not to introduce designations like Ram IIa, IIb, etc. as these never existed.

As Geoff says "I did not make this up!"

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Originally posted by servicepub
As Geoff says "I did not make this up!"

Ah yes, but I would not rely solely on a memo on shipping specifications. As you can see they worry about the width and therefore mention the various profiles of the Ram. If you wish you can make many more sub-divisions to identify Rams from pictures easier. For example, there were 100 Rams built with the auxiliary machine-gun turret but with the M3 Medium Tank transmission, final drive and bogies replaced by the types as used on the M4 Medium Tank.

H.

[servicepub (RIP)]

Hanno,
Your point is taken and I have changed the nomenclature. For the sake of organisation I will probably keep them in these five sub-sections.
I would be interested in finding a decent on-line editable DB. Do you know of one?
The Ram WD Registry is now 60% uploaded. Over the next few days I will get the entire frame-work finished. Within a few weeks I expect a substantial number of files from the Archives and that will fill in some gaps, as did your uploads.

Thnx,

Clive

[Mark W. Tonner]

Originally posted by servicepub
The Ram WD Registry is now 60% uploaded. Over the next few days I will get the entire frame-work finished. Within a few weeks I expect a substantial number of files from the Archives and that will fill in some gaps, as did your uploads.

Excellent site Clive!

[Geoff Winnington-Ball (RIP)]

Originally posted by servicepub
I would be interested in finding a decent on-line editable DB. Do you know of one?
The Ram WD Registry is now 60% uploaded. Over the next few days I will get the entire frame-work finished. Within a few weeks I expect a substantial number of files from the Archives and that will fill in some gaps, as did your uploads.

Clive, why don't we just run an Access DB on MLU and use VB script to put it online? That will save your webspace, and I can give you exclusive access.

[servicepub (RIP)]

Originally posted by Geoff Winnington-Ball
Clive, why don't we just run an Access DB on MLU and use VB script to put it online? That will save your webspace, and I can give you exclusive access.

Huh????
PM me your daytime phone number and we'll talk.
Clive

[Geoff Winnington-Ball (RIP)]

Done.

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Originally posted by Geoff Winnington-Ball
Done.

Excellent! Well done, Clive & Geoff.

H.

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Originally posted by servicepub
The Ram WD Registry is now 60% uploaded. Over the next few days I will get the entire frame-work finished. Within a few weeks I expect a substantial number of files from the Archives and that will fill in some gaps, as did your uploads.

Clive, great piece of work. Do you want me to look up some details on surviving Rams? For example, Ram Shop No.1112 CT-40892, shown below while on a range in England in the mid-1980s. After going through Holland and Belgium it ended up in...the CWM!


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[servicepub (RIP)]

Hanno,
Even in their after-life they should be recorded. Can I use the picture?
Clive

[Roddy de Normann]

Hey Guys don't forget me...!

I have been collecting T numbers for some three years now, mostly from the Regimental war Diaries held in the National Archives.

The Ram Tank CT listings have been v elusive, especially as the Canadian war Diaries in the UK are only the tertiary copies and do not contain the Annexes. That said, one or two of the regiments had details on some of their vehicles in their Daily Orders which have been included in the UK copies. I would be delighted to pass on those that I have - just let me know how and to whom and I will send on an Excel Spreadsheet.

Of course, once you have done the Rams, you can start on the Shermans - now there's a challenge !

All the best

Roddy

[servicepub (RIP)]

Roddy,

All contributions are welcomed. Ram CTs and any accompanying comments, photos, etc.. can be sent to me at clive@servicepub.com

Thnx,

[Roddy de Normann]

Roger - wait out !

R

[servicepub (RIP)]

The major work on the RamTank has now been completed. With the help of Hanno, Kevin T and others I have some information on over 60% of all Rams produced. More will be posted in the next few days and another 'lot' when several hundred pages are delivered from National Archives in a month or so.
Additionally, there are now about 20 Ram tank photos inserted in the registry.
All contributions are welcome and an acknowledgement section will be put together shortly.

[kevinT]

A couple of things.
Not sure if it is my computer but some of the photos in Ram I and II seem to overlay the text.
I would like to thank Bill Miller who has supplied me with much of the information I have. I have just compiled it into a sortable Excel spreadsheet format.
Thanks also to Clive for some great work in getting this altogether.

Cheers
Kevin

[Roddy de Normann]

Clive -

Many thanks -

Yep I have been following the whole process. What has amazed me is just how quickly the info has been collected, collated and displayed - very scary !

I was serious ref the Shermans - if everyone can achieve this with the Rams, just think what could be achieved with a much bigger project. Count me in if you do...

By the way, what of the Canadian 'Grizzly' ? Did they have T series numbers ? Never really come across any before.

Congrats to all for a really quite excellent effort - and a lot of fun !

Roddy

[kevinT]

Roddys idea of listing all the Shermans etc, is great. But perhaps if a Regiment a time was tackled it may not seem so daunting.
As the lists builtup perhaps there could be a central database listing all Shermans / Regiments?
Just a thought.

Cheers
Kevin

[John McGillivray]

Originally posted by kevinT
Roddys idea of listing all the Shermans etc, is great. But perhaps if a Regiment a time was tackled it may not seem so daunting.
As the lists builtup perhaps there could be a central database listing all Shermans / Regiments?
Just a thought.

Cheers
Kevin

Don Dinwall’s publication “Canadian Armour in the Italian Campaign” has two lists of the WD numbers of the Shermans of 1CAB, broken down by units; the first from June 1943 and the second from Sept 1943.

[servicepub (RIP)]

Originally posted by kevinT
A couple of things.
Not sure if it is my computer but some of the photos in Ram I and II seem to overlay the text.

I think that it must be a browser issue as I have viewed from two different systems (Win XP and Win 2000) and don't see this.

[servicepub (RIP)]

Originally posted by Roddy1011
Hey Guys don't forget me...!

I have been collecting T numbers for some three years now, mostly from the Regimental war Diaries held in the National Archives.

The Ram Tank CT listings have been v elusive, especially as the Canadian war Diaries in the UK are only the tertiary copies and do not contain the Annexes. That said, one or two of the regiments had details on some of their vehicles in their Daily Orders which have been included in the UK copies. I would be delighted to pass on those that I have - just let me know how and to whom and I will send on an Excel Spreadsheet.

Of course, once you have done the Rams, you can start on the Shermans - now there's a challenge !

All the best

Roddy

Roddy,
Got your e-mail. When I replied to thank you though, my message was bounced back as undeliverable.
Clive

[Roddy de Normann]

Clive -

Not sure why it was rejected.

But so long as you received the file....

Roddy

[Roddy de Normann]

Hi to all -

Ref the detailed listings of RAMs still with Canadian units and those SOS to the British, am I right in saying that all vehs detailed as 17 pdr were Ram Towers ?

Thanks in advance

Roddy

[servicepub (RIP)]

Originally posted by Roddy1011
Hi to all -

Ref the detailed listings of RAMs still with Canadian units and those SOS to the British, am I right in saying that all vehs detailed as 17 pdr were Ram Towers ?Roddy

Roddy, that's how I read it. It doesn't help that some listings read "Personnel Carrier (Tower)" and, until more listings are shown (i.e., 1CACR/49ACR or an RCA/RA unit) then we can't be sure.

[Roddy de Normann]

Clive -

Another ques if I may ?

Ref the listings you posted, do you have the source details ? Presumably Canadian Archives, but which file ref etc ?

Many thanks

Roddy