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This just came off the wire at 4:20EST...
Sounds like a vehicle accident.... Serious incident involving Canadian Forces Soldiers in Afghanistan OTTAWA, March 2 /CNW Telbec/ - A serious incident has occurred involving Canadian Forces members in Kandahar. There are eight confirmed casualties with varying severity of injuries, at this time believed to be the result of a vehicle accident. No more information will be available until we can assess the situation, verify details and confirm that the next of kin of involved soldiers have been informed. For further information: (613) 996-2353/54, After hours: (613) 792-2973, World Wide Web: http://www.dnd.ca
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It was a collision with a civilian vehicle.
RIP Cpl. Paul James Davis, of Bridgewater, N.S. ![]()
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here is the press release... One Canadian soldier killed, six soldiers and one civilian injured in Afghanistan vehicle accident OTTAWA, March 2 /CNW Telbec/ - One Canadian soldier was killed, six others and one local interpreter were injured when their light armoured vehicle (LAV III) collided with a civilian taxi that may have failed to yield at an intersection causing the LAV III to swerve into a roadside ditch before rolling over. The accident occurred about seven kilometres west of Kandahar around 9:50 a.m. local time (12:20 a.m. EST) on March 2. Dead is Corporal Paul Davis of Bridgewater, N.S. Seriously injured are: Master-Corporal Timothy Wilson of Grande Prairie, Alta.; Private Miguel Chavez, originally of San Salvador, El Salvador. Other soldiers injured along with an Afghan interpreter are: Private Nathan Justice of Dauphin, Man.; Private Mark Taylor of Prince Rupert, B.C.; Private Thomas Wong of Edmonton, Alta.; Sergeant Darren Haggerty of London, Ont. Five of the injured, including the interpreter, are in stable condition at this time. All next of kin have been notified. One soldier underwent surgery at the coalition field hospital at Kandahar Airfield. Plans are being made to transfer him to the U.S. medical facility at Landstuhl, Germany, as soon as his medical condition allows. Private Chavez is already en route to Landstuhl on board a U.S. military aircraft diverted to Kandahar. The repatriation of Corporal Davis' remains is now being planned. Details will be released as they become available. The soldiers were conducting a routine patrol when their LAV III rolled over. They were all members of Bravo Company from the 2nd Battalion, Princess Patricia's Canadian Light Infantry (2 PPCLI), stationed in Shilo, Man., serving with Task Force Afghanistan, in Kandahar as part of Canadian operations in Afghanistan. Immediately after the incident, a U.S. Army Blackhawk helicopter from Kandahar Airfield flew four of the injured soldiers from the accident site to the coalition hospital at Kandahar Airfield while the others were evacuated by road in a Bison ambulance to a medical facility at Camp Nathan Smith. Canada's mission in Afghanistan is part of our contribution to the international campaign to help bring stability and security to the people of Afghanistan. The overarching goal is to help the Afghan people achieve peace by preventing their nation from relapsing into a failed state that gives terrorist and terrorist organizations a safe haven. There are significant risks involved in these operations, but Canadian Forces members are among the best trained, and most experienced soldiers in the world. They are well led, well equipped, and fully prepared for the mission in Afghanistan Cpl Davis is the ninth Canadian soldier to lose his life in Afghanistan. Glyn Berry, a representative from Foreign Affairs Canada also lost his life while serving in Afghanistan. NOTE TO EDITOR: Images related to this incident will be available on the CF Combat Camera website at: http://www.combatcamera.forces.gc.ca For further information: (613) 996-2353/54, After hours: (613) 792-2973, World Wide Web: http://www.forces.gc.ca
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Not to sound insensitive, but, is this not the second incident regarding rollover / collision w/ civilians? Don't those Afgans realize that there only one winner when you want to tangle with an AFV? Maybe its time for the CF to insist on offensive driving school for our troopers instead of defensive. It seems to me that the lives of our servicemen and women are more important to protect that those of some idiot driving a taxi...
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Just saw on Global news that there was a suicide bombing against another LAV this moring. None killed, but several wounded. The bomb blew out all the right-side tires, but it looks like the armour retained its integrity.
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For those that can get out to the highway of hero's to pay there respects,here is the timetable...Get there early...25 below zero or not there is standing room only..
RIP brother.. Department of National Defence Jan 09, 2009 12:54 ET DND: Our Fallen Soldier Returns Home OTTAWA, ONTARIO--(Marketwire - Jan. 9, 2008) - Our fallen soldier, Trooper Brian Richard Good, will return home to Canada on Saturday, January 10, 2009. Where: 8 Wing, Canadian Forces Base Trenton, Ontario. When: Saturday, January 10, 2009 at 2:00 p.m. What: At the wishes of the family, media will be permitted on the tarmac. Present to pay their respects will be Her Excellency The Governor General of Canada, The Right Honourable Michaelle Jean, Minister of National Defence, The Honourable Peter Gordon MacKay, Chief of Defence Staff, General Walt Natynczyk and other dignitaries. Trooper Good from The Royal Canadian Dragoons based at Canadian Forces Base Petawawa, and serving with 3rd Battalion, The Royal Canadian Regiment Battle Group, and three other Canadian soldiers were injured when their armoured vehicle struck an improvised explosive device approximately 35 kilometres north of Kandahar City in the Shah Wali Kowt District. The incident occurred at approximately 8:00 a.m., Kandahar time, on January 7, 2009. Note to Editors/News Directors: Interested media may contact Lieutenant Annie Morin, 8 Wing/CFB Trenton Public Affairs Officer, who can be reached at (613) 243-7330. For general queries, please contact the Media Liaison Office at (866) 377-0811, or on weekends 613-792-2973. For flight information, please contact the Air Passenger Terminal at 1-800-487-1186. For more information, please contact Information: 1-866-377-0811/613-996-2353 After hours: 613-792-2973 www.forces.gc.ca Click here to see all recent news from this company ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
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Canadian soldier killed by IED in Afghanistan
Updated Sat. Jan. 31 2009 4:27 PM ET CTV.ca News Staff A Canadian soldier was killed in Afghanistan Saturday as he participated in a major operation to locate bomb-making factories in Taliban territory. Sapper Sean David Greenfield, 25, was killed when the armoured vehicle he was riding in struck an improvised explosive device in the Zhari district, west of Kandahar city. "It is with a heavy heart that I announce that a Canadian soldier was killed today," Brig.-Gen. Denis Thompson, Canada's top military commander in Afghanistan, said. Greenfield was killed at the tale end of a joint operation with American and British troops to root out the Taliban's bomb-making abilities. "The mission in question was meant to go into a zone, the western part of Panjwaii and Zhari districts in order to go after specific Taliban compounds of interest, where we did find. . .bomb-making material and other weapons," Thompson said. The incident occurred as hundreds of soldiers fanned out over 20 kilometres, looking for Taliban weapons caches. The other soldiers in the vehicle were not hurt, Thompson said. Greenfield was a member of 24 Field Engineer Squadron, 2 Combat Engineer Regiment based out of Petawawa, Ont., serving with the 3rd Battalion of the Royal Canadian Regiment Battle Group. Thompson described Greenfield as exceptionally fit and said the young soldier recently completed a combat diver's course. He added that Greenfield aspired to join JTF2, Canada's elite and secretive special forces team. Greenfield was described as having a great sense of humour and someone who loved to sing and play guitar. Improvised explosive devices (IEDs) continue to plague Canadian troops in Afghanistan. IEDs are responsible for more than half of all Canadian troop deaths in the country, which now total 108. Canadian soldiers have ramped up efforts to seek out IED materials in recent months. In early January, Operation Shahi Tandar (Royal Thunder), a joint operation between Canadian, British and Afghan troops, seized detonators, wires and tubes, and other bomb-making materials. Saturday's search yielded even more material that would be used to make IEDs. "The engineers went in and found what seems to be a bit of a false wall," Platoon Commander Lieut. Aron Corey told reporters. "In behind that were some spools of wire, the same type of wire that's used in IEDs." ![]() ![]() ![]() http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNew...hub=TopStories |
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Department of National Defence
Apr 24, 2009 05:02 ET One Canadian Soldier Dies in Afghanistan OTTAWA, ONTARIO--(Marketwire - April 24, 2009) - At approximately 4:00 p.m. Kandahar time, 23 April 2009, a Canadian Forces member was found dead in her accommodation room, at Kandahar Airfield. Deceased is Major Michelle Mendes, based in Ottawa, Ontario. An investigation is ongoing to establish the circumstances of this incident. No further details are available at this time, although enemy action has been ruled out. Our thoughts are with the family and friends of our lost comrade. Our primary focus at this time is to provide the best possible support to the family of our soldier and to her colleagues. The immediate family of Major Mendes has no comment at this time. They are asking that the media respect their privacy and they will provide a statement in due course. Note to Editors: A photo of the deceased Canadian Forces soldier is available on the Combat Camera website at: www.combatcamera.forces.gc.ca ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
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Looks like the boys in blue are going to make some new maps for the lads..(and lassies)
Department of National Defence Department of National Defence AIR FORCE PUBLIC AFFAIRS AIR FORCE PUBLIC AFFAIRS May 08, 2009 12:19 ET Canada's Air Force to Produce Maps for Canadian Troops in Afghanistan OTTAWA, ONTARIO--(Marketwire - May 8, 2009) - The Honourable Peter Gordon MacKay, Minister of National Defence and Minister for the Atlantic Gateway, today announced that two CP-140 Auroras deployed overseas yesterday for approximately two months to produce maps for Joint Task Force-Afghanistan. The Auroras and their two crews will produce high-resolution, colour and stereo imagery in support of Operation ATHENA, the Canadian contingent to the NATO-led mission in Afghanistan. The type of imagery that will be gathered will promote interoperability and operational success since it can be shared across the International Security Assistance Force (ISAF), including the Afghan National Army (ANA) and Afghan National Security Forces (ANSF). "The deployment of the Auroras and their highly specialized sensor equipment displays our commitment to the security and effectiveness of this United Nations-mandated, NATO-led mission," said Minister MacKay. "The Aurora crews will produce valuable digital aerial imagery to improve awareness of the situation on the ground for deployed Canadian Forces and allied troops." The maps produced will cover new ground where no detailed maps exist or be an improvement over existing out-dated maps where developments have changed the landscape. Imagery collected will be based on priority areas identified by the Canadian Forces and allies in conjunction with Joint Task Force -Afghanistan. "The Auroras' deployment to Afghanistan to perform overland mapping represents an expansion from its long-time role of maritime patrol," said Lieutenant-General Angus Watt, Chief of the Air Staff. "This deployment will demonstrate and increase the experience levels of the CP-140 air and ground crews and be a milestone event for the Long Range Patrol community." Canada's Air Force has played a critical role in supporting the mission in Afghanistan since 2002, contributing vital airlift; intelligence, surveillance and reconnaissance; and other mission-essential support involving approximately 20 per cent of the personnel deployed in support of the operation. For detailed information about Joint Task Force-Afghanistan, visit: http://www.cefcom-comfec.forces.gc.c.../index-eng.asp For more information, please contact National Defence Media Liaison Office Information: 1-866-377-0811 / 613-996-2353 After hours: 613-792-2973 www.forces.gc.ca Click here to see all recent news from this company
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Jul 03, 2009 14:45 ET One Canadian Soldier Killed and Five Injured in an Explosive Device Strike OTTAWA, ONTARIO--(Marketwire - July 3, 2009) - One Canadian soldier was killed and five injured when an improvised explosive device detonated near their armoured vehicle during a patrol in the Zhari District. The incident occurred south-west of Kandahar City at around 11:20 a.m., Kandahar time, on 3 July, 2009. Killed in action was Cpl Nicholas Bulger from the 3rd Battalion, Princess Patricia's Canadian Light Infantry based in Edmonton. The injured soldiers were evacuated by helicopter to the Role 3 Multi-National Medical Facility at the Kandahar Airfield. They are in good condition and under medical care. The identities of the injured soldiers will not be released. The soldiers were members of the Task Force Kandahar Headquarters. Our thoughts and prayers are with the family and friends of our fallen comrade during this very difficult time. Members of Task Force Kandahar are committed to improving security and increasing development in Kandahar Province. Despite these cowardly attacks we are determined to continue working with our Afghan and international partners towards a better future for the people of Afghanistan. Note to Editors: A photograph of Cpl Bulger is available on the Combat Camera website (search under last name) at: www.combatcamera.forces.gc.ca For more information, please contact Information: 1-866-377-0811 / 613-995-2353 After hours: 613-792-2973 www.forces.gc.ca Click here to see all recent news from this company ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
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Shit! I hate seeing this thread updated in my e-mails, 'cause I know it will be another announcement of the loss of a good Canadian soldier.
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Two Canadian soldiers killed in helicopter crash
Updated Tue. Jul. 7 2009 12:29 AM ET CTV.ca News Staff Two Canadian soldiers have died in a Griffon helicopter crash in Afghanistan, along with another coalition soldier. Three other Canadians were injured. The killed Canadians have been identified as Master Cpl. Pat Audet, 38, and Cpl. Martin Joannette, 25. Both were based in Valcartier, Que. Audet served with the 430 Tactical Helicopter Squadron, and Joannette was with the 3e Bataillon, Royal 22e Regiment. Two of the injured soldiers were able to return to duty, while the third was listed in stable condition. Military officials say the helicopter crashed at a U.S. base in Zabul province, about 80 kilometres northeast of Kandahar where the bulk of Canadian troops are based. Insurgents were not involved in the incident, suggesting the helicopter may have suffered from mechanical failure. "A flight-safety investigation is currently underway to determine the cause of the crash," said Canadian commander Brig.-Gen. Jonathan Vance. Griffons are used mainly to transport troops, and are part of the Canadian Helicopter Force Afghanistan. They have been used by the Canadian military since the start of this year. The majority of Canadian soldiers killed in Afghanistan have died from improvised explosive devices, buried along Kandahar's dangerous roads. Because of that, helicopters are considered a much safer method of transportation. "With the arrival of the Griffon and Chinook helicopters in our area of operations, (Audet and Joannette) played a valuable role in reducing exposures to IEDs, and by providing aviation support to combat operations," said Vance. Audet was on his first deployment to Afghanistan. He is survived by a wife, Katherine, and his parents. Joanette, although younger, was on his third deployment. He leaves behind a wife, Marie-Eve. "Their contribution here in Afghanistan was incredible, and we will remember their sacrifice always," said Vance. Canada has now lost four soldiers in as many days. Cpl. Nicholas Bulger died from an IED explosion on July 3, and Master Cpl. Charles-Philippe Michaud died the next day, succumbing to injuries he had suffered in a bomb blast the previous month. "It has been an extremely difficult week here in Kandahar," said Vance. "We all are feeling a great sense of loss." The latest casualties bring Canada's military death toll in Afghanistan to 124 since the mission began in 2002. With files from The Canadian Press http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNew...hub=TopStories ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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Canadian soldier killed, 11 injured in Afghan blast
Updated Thu. Sep. 17 2009 5:37 PM ET CTV.ca News Staff A Canadian soldier has died in an Afghan bomb attack, the second such death in less than a week. The soldier has been identified as 23-year-old Pte. Jonathan Couturier of the 2nd Battalion, Royal 22e Regiment, based in Valcartier, Que. Couturier, who was involved in a mission to seize weapons and control Taliban movements, was killed when an improvised explosive device exploded. He is the 131st Canadian soldier to die in Afghanistan. Eleven others were also injured in the blast, but those injuries weren't serious, said Brig.-Gen. Jonathan Vance. The death comes a day after the body of Pte. Patrick Lormand, 21, returned to Canada in an emotional ceremony at CFB Trenton in Ontario. Lormand was killed by a roadside bomb on Sunday in Afghanistan's southwest near Kandahar City. Earlier on Thursday, six Italian soldiers and 10 Afghans were killed in Kabul by a suicide car bomber. The Taliban claimed responsibility for the blast and it came despite massive security in the Afghan capital. Violence has been on the rise in Afghanistan as thousands of U.S. troops have entered the country with the intention of pushing insurgents out of their strongholds. The attacks also follow a highly contentious presidential election, which still has no clear winner. In the weeks before Afghans went to the ballot boxes, the Taliban vowed to disrupt voting through violence and intimidation. ![]() ![]() ![]() http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNew...hub=TopStories |
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OTTAWA – One Canadian soldier was killed and two injured by an improvised explosive device that detonated near their dismounted patrol. The incident occurred approximately 20 kilometres south-west of Kandahar City at around 9 a.m., Kandahar time, on 28 October 2009.
Killed in action was Lieutenant Justin Boyes of the 3rd Battalion Princess Patricia’s Canadian Light Infantry, serving with the Kandahar Provincial Reconstruction Team. The injured soldiers were evacuated by helicopter to the Multi-National Medical Facility at the Kandahar Airfield and are in good condition. The next of kin for the injured soldiers have also been notified. The identities of the injured soldiers will not be released. Our thoughts and condolences go to the family and friends of our fallen comrade. Members of Task Force Afghanistan work with Afghan security forces for the greater good of Afghanistan. We remain focused and determined to bringing peace, stability and good governance despite the challenge imposed on us by the insurgents. We remain committed to Afghanistan. ![]() ![]()
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Department of National Defence Jul 16, 2009 11:40 ET One Canadian Soldier Killed on Operations OTTAWA, ONTARIO--(Marketwire - July 16, 2009) - One Canadian soldier died while conducting operations in the Panjwayi District. The incident occurred approximately 17 kilometres south-west from Kandahar City at around 6:00 a.m., Kandahar time, on July 16, 2009. Killed in action was Private Sebastien Courcy from 2nd Battalion, Royal 22e Regiment based in Quebec City, Quebec. Pte Courcy was serving as a member of the 2nd Battalion, Royal 22e Regiment Battle Group. Pte Courcy was evacuated by helicopter to the Role 3 Multi-National Medical Facility at the Kandahar Airfield. Our thoughts and condolences go to the family and friends of our fallen comrade. Canadian soldiers and their ANSF partners work together for the greater good of Afghanistan. Security operations sometimes require a heavy price to be paid, but the challenge we face cannot deter us from our ultimate goal and commitment we have toward Afghans. Note to Editors: A photograph of Pte Courcy is available on the Canadian Forces Image Gallery website (search under last name) at: www.combatcamera.forces.gc.ca For more information, please contact Information: 1-866-377-0811/613-996-2353 After hours: 613-792-2973 www.forces.gc.ca Click here to see all recent news from this company
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Two more good Canadian troops paid the ultimate price 1 ST August..Go with God ..Bless you..
RIP.. ![]() ![]() ![]() Department of National Defence Aug 03, 2009 10:15 ETName of Second Canadian Soldier Killed in Afghanistan Released OTTAWA, ONTARIO--(Marketwire - Aug. 3, 2009) - The identity of the second Canadian soldier killed in Afghanistan on August 1, 2009 is as follows: - Sapper Matthieu Allard from 5e Regiment du genie de combat serving as a member of the 2nd Battalion, Royal 22e Regiment Battle Group based in Valcartier, Quebec. NOTE TO EDITORS: A photograph of Sapper Matthieu Allard is available on the Combat Camera Website (search under last name) at: http://www.combatcamera.ca. For more information, please contact Information: 613-996-2353/54 After hours: 613-996-2353 www.forces.gc.ca Click here to see all recent news from this company
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Governor General of Canada
Aug 03, 2009 10:48 ETMessage From Her Excellency the Right Honourable Michaelle Jean, Governor General and Commander-in-Chief of Canada, on the Deaths of Corporal Christian Bobbitt and Sapper Matthieu Allard OTTAWA, ONTARIO--(Marketwire - Aug. 3, 2009) - Words cannot express the pain and sadness we feel upon learning of the deaths of Corporal Christian Bobbitt and Sapper Matthieu Allard, both from 5e Regiment du genie de combat serving as members of the 2nd Battalion, Royal 22e Regiment. They were killed on patrol when their vehicle hit an improvised explosive device in the Zhari district, 15 km outside Kandahar City. Another of their comrades was gravely wounded. The thoughts of my husband, Jean-Daniel Lafond, and I are with the parents, families, loved ones and friends of these soldiers. This is a devastating blow to all of them, who today are inconsolable. We hope they can take comfort knowing that they are not alone, and that Canadians everywhere are touched and saddened by their loss. Above all, with the greatest respect and consideration, we will never forget the heroic contributions of these brave soldiers. They gave the very best of themselves and their lives knowing that their efforts would help to improve the lives of thousands of women, men and children whose greatest desire is to live in a peaceful, safe country, where democracy and justice prevail. Their courage and self-sacrifice honour them. Michaelle Jean For more information, please contact Rideau Hall Press Office Marie-Eve Letourneau 613-998-0287 www.gg.ca www.citizenvoices.gg.ca Click here to see all recent news from this company
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Two Canadian soldiers killed in roadside bomb blast
Updated Mon. Sep. 7 2009 7:53 AM ET CTV.ca News Staff Two more Canadian soldiers have been killed in Afghanistan, after a roadside bomb exploded on a road southwest of Kandahar. The blast occurred at around noon on Sunday, in the Dand district, southwest of Kandahar city. Maj. Yannick Pepin, 36, and Cpl. Jean-Francois Drouin, 21, were killed by the bomb. Five others were injured in the blast. Both fallen soldiers were members of the 5 Combat Engineer Regiment out of Valcartier, Que. Following the news of their deaths, Col. Roch Lacroix, the deputy commander for Task Force Kandahar, said the entire task force was mourning their loss. "Saying goodbye to Yannick and Jean-Francois so prematurely is hard for me, it is hard for their friends, and it's hard for their families," Lacroix said late Sunday night. "Engineers like Yannick and Jean-Francois....put in a great deal of effort in Afghanistan where they're denying the ability of the insurgents to kill innocent victims on a large scale or simply reconstructing a bridge, roads, schools with their Afghan partners." Lacroix praised both men for their commitment to the mission and their personal qualities. "Nothing comes easy here and it takes patience and determination -- two qualities that both men embodied. Today is the time to grieve but tomorrow we will continue our work to better the lives of Afghans." Pepin leaves behind his partner, Annie, and their two children, Alexandra and Charles. The 10-year Canadian Forces veteran was a compassionate soldier, Lacroix said. "Proof of this was when he was on patrol once and stopped his vehicle to take a kite out of the antenna from his vehicle. He handed it to the small Afghan child who thought it had been lost. That day he carried a big grin," said Lacroix. "Yannick was a man of action who was always involved in things and put his personal interests second. We miss him enormously." His younger colleague Drouin had a bright future ahead of him in the military. He was known among his fellow soldiers as 'Big Drou,' and as a guy who liked to make other people laugh. "Jean-Francois was a very generous man with a big heart," Lacroix said. "As big a heart as the three pieces of steel he liked to lift in the gymnasium." Lacroix said Drouin had recently received an accelerated promotion to the rank of corporal. Drouin is survived by his partner, Audrey. Canada has now lost 129 soldiers during its mission in Afghanistan since it began seven years ago. With files from The Canadian Press http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNew...hub=TopStories |
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Two more deaths of our troops and five injured,,.
God bless 'em and rest in peace.. Department of National Defence Department of National Defence Sep 07, 2009 08:19 ET Statement by the Minister of National Defence on the Deaths of Major Yannick Pepin and Corporal Jean-Francois Drouin OTTAWA, ONTARIO--(Marketwire - Sept. 7, 2009) - The Honourable Peter Gordon MacKay, Minister of National Defence and Minister of the Atlantic Gateway, issued the following statement today on the deaths of two Canadian soldiers in Afghanistan: "The Canadian Forces and the Department of National Defence mourn the deaths of Major Yannick Pepin and Corporal Jean-Francois Drouin, who made the ultimate sacrifice today in Afghanistan. Our thoughts and prayers go out to their loved ones in this time of grief, and to the five other Canadian Forces members injured in this attack. Major Pepin and Corporal Drouin died when an improvised explosive device detonated near the vehicle in which they were travelling in the Dand District, southwest of Kandahar. Their tragic passing illustrates some of the risks that the selfless men and women of the Canadian Forces face every day in carrying out their duties. Canada is in Afghanistan as part of a UN-sanctioned mission to help build a stable, democratic, and self-sufficient society. Progress toward this goal cannot be made in an unstable security environment. Our Canadian Forces members are playing a key role in this NATO-led mission, helping improve the security situation in order to create the conditions necessary for Afghans to live normal lives. Major Pepin and Corporal Drouin were helping to bring back hope to a population that has seen much hardship and turmoil. This is a tragic loss for the Canadian Forces and all of Canada. Major Yannick Pepin and Corporal Jean-Francois Drouin were members of 5e Regiment du genie de combat, based at CFB Valcartier. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
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Having checked on this thread from time to time it occurs to me there must be a similar American forum with ten times the depressing list of casualties in Afghanistan. Add to that the British, Australians, Dutch, Belgians etc who are being killed or wounded daily.
I feel I am of average intelligence with a long interest in the military and follow world affairs very closely. Despite this I have NEVER seen or heard anyone from any nation explaining exactly what we doing there and what we are trying to achieve. Political clap-trap about "improving the lives of the Afghan people" seems to be the sum total of the reasons for a continuous growing list of dead soldiers. The recent highly talked-up elections with almost no elector turnout and now the totally expected corruption cries from the losers was the publicised justification for the slaughter of our soldiers for the last two years - a total failure. Abysmal double standards are evident when the world's prime source of heroin could be totally eradicated in a few weeks but is left to grow so the farmers will not be influenced to turn to the Taliban after losing an income (they have only had in relatively recent years anyhow). The Americans and all of us partners should rightly be listing the ruined lives and miserable deaths of thousands of our people through the use of this "agricultural" crop as casualties of the war as well. What military aims do we have other than to drive around until unlucky enough to be killed by a remotely fired explosive placed by an enemy who seldom gathers in numbers large enough to result in any decisive or even telling battle. I don't know, none of the Generals I have seen interviewed know, can the politicians please tell us. The British were massacred in Afghanistan over several campaigns, the might of the entire Russian military effort could make no headway despite much more relaxed rules of engagement, restrictions or ethics than now restrict our troops. Sure, Afghan life was not the best under the Taliban but Afghanistan is a shining light of peace and freedom compared to a long list of other countries. Who cares about the Congo and Angola where 6 million (yes the same number as the entire holocaust!) have died and continue to die. Rwanda - millions, Somalia - million etc etc. Is there anyone on the forum who can tell me (and the rest of the world) EXACTLY why we are in Afghanistan and what are the exact military aims which justify the staggering cost and dismal casualty lists. Lang |
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Perhaps after the former experiances in the Congo, Rawanda and Somalia nobody wants to go play there again. Afganistan is still all new and exciting for Canada. However, maybe after we get home after 2011 we wont be so quick to go back again.
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Lang..
Some time ago I read a report that seemed to address just that question and the writer alleged that the American oil industry had to establish a secure route to run a pipe line from the 'stan country's ,through Afghanistan and Pakistan to access the oil reserves of those country's... After the fall of the Soviet Union,the 'stans got their "independence"and Big Oil was the first one in there to grease the wheels of the local chief stick... With their war chests of cash the oil contracts and fields were soon tied in ,but no way to get the stuff to market..other than an oil pipeline through China or Russia..neither one a hot prospect.. Afghanistan and Pakistan is where they were going to build the pipeline to the seaport on the coast of Pakistan.. Why we are there ..I don't know..but where there is oil ..there is money and power..which can buy anything..including our boys lives.. 2011 Is long enough ..and although I support our troops,(Having been one for 14 years)I am leery to support the politics of death and destruction of our way of life to try to change tribal society that has flourished,right of wrong ,for thousands of years.. Time they fixed it them selves..which they eventually will ..when the time is right..for them..not for us.. Rant over.. Off the box.. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
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Derek,
Thanks for that. I think you are very optimistic to believe we can ever "get the job done" - to do so will require decades of involvement and huge numbers of garrison troops to keep any form of organised government and society on the "right" track. We are not trying to get rid of a bad government (Hitler and numerous other dictators or juntas) in Afghanistan, we are trying to create a new society. We have an even money shot in Iraq because Iraq had a relatively well educated well organised and functioning country under Hussein and all we had to to do was get rid of the evil to reveal the acceptable base system like we did in Germany and Japan in the 40's. As for Afghanistan becoming the world's terrorist training ground - once we finish there we will have to follow them across the border to the other 'stans and even into our ally Pakistan (where they operate now in any case). We have to find some other way to to solve the Islam/West divide or our soldiers are going to keep being killed in Central Asia for the next hundred years. I certainly don't know the answer and I don't think anyone else does but we sure have to come up with one. Lang |
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You're absolutely right. To have any chance of preventing Afghanistan, and many other countries from reverting to fundamentalist Islamic Theocracies, we have to accomplish three things: destroy Al Qaeda and the Taliban, not allow any more Moslem youth to be radicalized, and to send the one's who have been radicalized to Paradise at either our hands or theirs. My best guess is this will take at the bare minimum 2-3 generations. Do we have the will to achieve this? Absolutely not! But at least in the meantime by keeping the terrorists busy over there, they're not busy over here. Derek.
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