Sherman IC T-269916

[Tim Bell]

Originally Posted by tankbarrell

The Elgin Regt were the Armoured Delivery Regiment for all of 21st AG, as far as I know so being listed with them at some point doesn't mean it served with a Canadian unit.

True... Firefly in Nijmegen in 1944, 51 would likely indicate Grenadier Guards

Firefly-Nijmegen1944.jpg

No name at rear of turret - also lacking the shipping code seen on later vehicles.

I think a case of looking through the Elgin diaries to see if your number comes up and then hoping it shows which unit they issued it to or receipted from.

[Maurice Donckers]

Thanks all for the replys , under the 51 was also a bit of white paint, so maybe it had a white stripe underneath . Shipping msu triangle was also on it with code ord3 ll 606
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And of course link I ofI

[Colin Alford]

Maurice,

I looked through the approx 1000 images that cover the turn-in of armoured vehicles from Canadian units at the end of the war.

I did find 269916, 269917, 269920, and 269921 as vehicles turned in by various units but I did not notice 269919. While your vehicle certainly fits into the right WD number block, it might not have been issued to a Canadian Unit (or could have been with a Canadian unit for a period of time, then spent time in Workshops prior to reissue to a different unit).

The records related to the turn-in start here: https://heritage.canadiana.ca/view/o...eel_t12742/431

Here are the links for the turn-in of 269920, and 269921:
https://heritage.canadiana.ca/view/o...eel_t12742/620
https://heritage.canadiana.ca/view/o...el_t12742/1055

There are other groups of records within the various 25 CADR War Diaries (Squadron and Regimental) where your vehicle might appear.

Colin

[Maurice Donckers]

big mistake !!!!! the T number is 269916 sorry sorry
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I was writing it from memory , and went now outside to check it and i wrote down the wrong number in this forum this morning ,can i still change the tread?

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Originally Posted by Maurice Donckers

big mistake !!!!! the T number is 269916 sorry sorry
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I was writing it from memory , and went now outside to check it and i wrote down the wrong number in this forum this morning ,can i still change the tread?

Hi Maurice, I have edited your first post and the header of the thread.

PS: any member can edit their own posts: click the edit button, change the text and then click save

[Colin Alford]

Maurice,

Please see the attached images.

The front of the form is blurry but it appears to me that 269916 was turned in by 22 CAR (Canadian Grenadier Guards)

If this is correct then I presume your vehicle must have passed through more than one unit as the tactical marking for 22CAR was 52.

Link to record: https://heritage.canadiana.ca/view/o...el_t12742/1101

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Wow Colin, that’s a great find!

[Tim Bell]

Originally Posted by Colin Alford

Maurice,

Please see the attached images.

The front of the form is blurry but it appears to me that 269916 was turned in by 22 CAR (Canadian Grenadier Guards)

If this is correct then I presume your vehicle must have passed through more than one unit as the tactical marking for 22CAR was 52.

Link to record: https://heritage.canadiana.ca/view/o...el_t12742/1101

Nice find... and therefore it will exist elsewhere in the records.

[Tim Bell]

Condition Classes were I to IV, where I was best condition.

[Tim Bell]

Originally Posted by Maurice Donckers

big mistake !!!!! the T number is 269916 sorry sorry
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I was writing it from memory , and went now outside to check it and i wrote down the wrong number in this forum this morning ,can i still change the tread?

I will look again!