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Old 10-03-24, 11:19
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Default No.5 Sight Illumination App. for 18Pr Mk.IV

Hello everyone. The No.5 Sight Illumination Apparatus came in with the 18Pr Mk.IV circa 1918-1920. Has anyone seen any made pre 25 Pounder production?

The 18Pr IV and 18/25Pr on Mk. IV carriage Illustrated Parts Lists show the stowage box with a 1920 makers pate.

I have another Australian 1942 made unit that I picked up recently. I would happily trade for anything made in the 1918 to 1920s period. That may be of interest if someone with an early box but wanted something WW2 dated for a 25Pr Mk.II.

The No.5 units of any date are remarkably hard to find. I think I have seen three come up since I started looking in 1995. The ones I missed out on were in auctions but went for eye watering money at the time. Fortunately mine turned up in a Lloyds auction where typically they separated the apparatus from the trail storage box, but it was not cheap. Looks like the underbidder knew exactly what he was after.
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Old 10-03-24, 14:45
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There were a few sets in the Lloyd auction of Rod Bellars stuff. That was a really poorly lotted sale with some amazing bargains to be had. Living the other side of the planet took the shine off somewhat!
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Old 10-03-24, 15:29
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There were a few sets in the Lloyd auction of Rod Bellars stuff. That was a really poorly lotted sale with some amazing bargains to be had. Living the other side of the planet took the shine off somewhat!
I managed to get a box with the lighting kit off that auction. You just had to swallow your common sense and decide you were going to pay the price. I almost took a second one, but in the end gave it up so someone else could be happy. I am glad I paid the price. Money shows up every week or two, and I really don't miss whatever I paid for mine. But the boxes.....not so often.

The lighting kit that came with the one I bought wasn't perfect, but fortunately I already had a spare lighting kit I bought from one of the guys on the forum, so between the two I made a complete one.
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Old 10-03-24, 16:46
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I hear you, I'd much rather regret buying something than regret not buying it. I did win some 17 pr ammo boxes from the Bellars sale, the shipping on those was eye watering.... Made worse by the fact that somebody had stolen the lids, presumably at the sale venue. They were present in the photos and missing when I got them.
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Old 10-03-24, 20:31
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I was so fixated on 25 pdr stuff that I did not notice the little stowage box for the 6 pdr shield until after the auction was over. That was another item that I would have happily paid too much for.

As to pilfering from the lots, I pretty much got whatever items were in my lots, and some of it I gave to.the mlu member who picked up and shipped my stuff. But I heard from others that they were missing items from larger pieces that they had purchased, and that there was little satisfaction to be had from the auctioneers..
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Old 10-03-24, 21:00
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I make the shield boxes if you get stuck.

This was a repair of an original but I also make them from scratch.
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Old 10-03-24, 15:25
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Hello everyone. The No.5 Sight Illumination Apparatus came in with the 18Pr Mk.IV circa 1918-1920. Has anyone seen any made pre 25 Pounder production?

The 18Pr IV and 18/25Pr on Mk. IV carriage Illustrated Parts Lists show the stowage box with a 1920 makers pate.
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I posted about a box a while ago that I spotted on ebay. I suspect this may be an early box that has been re-purposed: http://www.mapleleafup.net/forums/sh...ad.php?t=31908
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