Early Pattern 11 Chev 4x2 ??

[rob love]

One way to save it is, when you are on the page, right click and select "take screen shot". Then when it gives you a choice, select "save full page". That will get you the entire database. When you open it, it will be small.. You will have to enlarge it to readable and use your curser to scroll down.

[Bob Carriere]

WE had Atlantic snow grabs with sticky mushroom rice AND beer.....

Now to get back to Alex about the ignition key issue.....

Is it safe to assume that very early CMPs had the off the shelf ignition switch with unique keys.....which became cumbersome in service...... so all further model had the ignition key modified with the addition of a chromed insert permanently installed so any one could start the vehicle.....

Here are two photos of instrument clusters...

First one is a very very early C8 Cab 11 ( no registration plate on the engine cover)........ switch lettering looks silk screen printed???
"HEATER" ( Yes it did have a small circular civilian heater located in the pass foot well) a "PLATE" switch ( license plate?) and the last one barely readable as "PANEL" for the lights inside the civilian cluster.

The second photo is my C15a....serial 035xx so not a very early model with vents but NO marker lights on the front fenders, no hooks on dash, no rear axle convoy light, no water expansion tank........

Are there other "ODDITY" that would help identify veryearly production CMPs?

On the David H. listing ....... I do have a copy but was obsessed with how to capture a copy of the link.....and could not remember how to do it. Will now try out the suggested tricks.....

....and tonite for a light supper.....assorted cold cuts, prosciutto, shrimps, soft cheese, Dried Summer German sausage, Italian bread sticks and a cold bottle of ( in honor of our friend down under) Australian Blue Oyster Chardonnay.......

Bon appetit.........

first picture is my cab 11 the other the early C8

[Bob Carriere]

Alex's trick worked............. Rob my computer on right click did not give me the option to "take screen shot" ...... but select all and when I try to copy in another folder I get a blank.....

Anyways I got it in my reference documents twice now....... separate drives.

Thanks

[Bob Carriere]

Hi Alex

Could not find any information that is even remotely similar to the serial number of my C15a.... which reads 0 8444 03851...... model 84-44 originally had a Tonawanda(buffulo) engine......

Is there a listing of the 10 digit serial number just for the CMPs????

One could question if the serial numbers were sequencial by model ##_## or sequential to the assembly line when there are photos of assembly lines showing CMPs mixed with MCP and other vehicles.....

Clive had written that 11,000 Ford and 10,500 Chevs were assembled/built between star of production to Dec. 31st 1940 but not specifying if that included
MCP, and other vehicles!!!! in 1941 they did 61061 vehicles.....?

Still digging now in the parts book for info on :first series or for those built after serial XXXXXX for clues.

Bob C

[Alex van de Wetering]

Originally Posted by Bob Carriere

Hi Alex

Could not find any information that is even remotely similar to the serial number of my C15a.... which reads 0 8444 03851...... model 84-44 originally had a Tonawanda(buffulo) engine......

Bob, The website is a bit confusing as it shows David's info combined with info from other sources (I think)....so, you have to scroll down a bit to find David's CMP listings, sorted by year and type. Your serial is in there along with the engine number and date plate info, even though it's listed as a cab 11. Judging from the number, your C15A is a very early cab 12!
Have you seen the C15A that recently came up for sale here in Holland? it has a serial close to yours.
http://www.mapleleafup.net/forums/sh...ad.php?t=33736

Originally Posted by Bob Carriere

Still digging now in the parts book for info on :first series or for those built after serial XXXXXX for clues.

Yes, there are much more clues to be found in the parts book.......I had a brief look yesterday for the grill.....but haven't had a chance yet to look at the key/lock thing and other details. There is lots of interesting stuff in there....also details that we think are odd, or early, but sometimes they are just British

Scan from the parts lost attached in regards to the Cab11 grill.....it has a Ford part number....but also a Chev one.


we are really missing the David's here, Pope and Hayward in these sort of discussions!

[Alex van de Wetering]

Another early feature we spoke about on the forum before is the small dash light located in the centre of the dash, just below where the hard lines from the windscreen wiper enters through the dash.....but I can't remember if it was specificaly an early feature, or rather a sort of optional thing.......time for a forum search!

My C8 also has the hooks to put the doors in open position, but the location of the holes suggest they were added after production.....also the cutout in the flange of the cab rear wall behind the drivers seat....on mine it looks rather crude, so most likely a later mod during service.

Other early features that come to mind....rubber gasket in stead of canvas under the nose panels next to engine lid/cover/hood/panel-thingy. Round mounting holes in the supports for the front fenders (under the headlights), in stead of oval holes.

[Bob Carriere]

HI Alex.....

....and in my own backyard.

Wrapping upCMPs for the Winter season and the C15 has a very good registration tag on the engine cover......O 8421 01189 so.... 1940....
2 wheel drive .... serial 01189......

Has rubber gasket on engine cover (cab11) .....found the remains of a little light centered on the dash face and the vacuum line is on the flat part ofthe dash just below the windshield central post...... no door hooks, no strap to keep doors from hitting cargo box... of course no cargo box....

Now I realize how to read the first model vs second type cab.....

When they say before 084 xx 04001......... made in 0 or 1940 parts used before serial number 4001 and the XX implies that the part was used on model 84 in 2 or 4 wheel drive XX meaning more universal such as panel parts.....

some before parts have date until Oct 1940.....so parts where used from start up (April 1940??) to October `1940

....some have 184 XX 05147 to 284 XX 10201 and some times a date

We always knew that changes occurred during production and some times older parts where available and used when current parts where short.

Best example is contract PE-175 for Australia....C60L with helper springs and C15a small axles front and rear with 16 inch rims/tires made Sept 1944 as cab 13 BUT with the old civilian rectangular instrument cluster..... manufactured late in Canada and never delivered but liquidated locally....

This is like digging up in the sands of Egypt.......

Somewhere on the forum or inmy manymixed up[ pictures I have a shot of an assembly line showing a cab 11 mixed with cab 12 and one 12 having a rigid windshield....... obviously during transition..... I will run across it one day...

Keep shoveling.....

Bob