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Old 01-06-22, 23:13
Jacques Reed Jacques Reed is offline
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Default Ford CMP Rear hub seal- BB 1175 /Timken 5751

Hi Mark,

A Google search came up with a Timken number from another Ford forum and the attached link which may help.

I haven't got one handy to check measurements but photo of it looks the same as the BB 1175. Timken numbers are often used as the industry standard.

https://www.motionindustries.com/products/sku/01295087

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Old 01-06-22, 23:20
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I always had it as a National 5751, but there has been so much takeover in the seals and bearings manufacturers in the past while, I can't keep up with it anymore.



Here is a link to the outer wheel seals for those who use them.
https://www.ebay.ca/itm/284800333547...IAAOSwLU9hT~X-
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Old 02-06-22, 10:36
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Rob, for a trip down memory lane there is a thread:
MLU FORUM > MILITARY VEHICLES > The Carrier Forum. Rear axle seals.
FORD Timken axles as found in a carrier or civvy axles do not have seals in the axle tubes and do not have a machined surface on the half shaft for a seal to run on. There is also no specific stepped area inside of the rivets that a seal might sit against. (I have a carrier diff in pieces at the moment) I assume the F60S LAAT is the same??? (other than the ratio)
There are obviously two types of outer seals (leather and metal- see the other thread) and it seems that in some applications there was never an outer seal fitted. I don't know of a variation that has tube seals, but I am a learner.
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Old 02-06-22, 14:03
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On my KL, which I did back in the 90s, I opened the axles to replace the inner seals. If I recall correctly, on the front axle you need to separate the axle in order to do the long side....the short side could be done from the outside. It was a PITA, and theoretically you would need the correct thickness gasket as that sets the backlash for the differential.



I just checked a 3 ton manual sitting behind me, and group 4702 is for those seals.....4 used on the Ford split type axle and located right next to the differential bearings.
The UCs for some reason did not use that method and instead used the GM seal in between the adjusting nuts for the wheel bearing.

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Old 02-06-22, 14:28
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Thank you all for your help , useful links and support, your advise is very much appreciated.

I will endeavour to order the seals over the weekend and hope to have my lorry rolling by the end of the summer.

I will report back soon.

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Old 02-06-22, 20:51
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Rob, I see now that you are referring to the front axle, while I was talking about the rear.
Mark, check out your options. They should be found at lower prices than Jacques's listing?
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Old 02-06-22, 21:54
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Nope, rear as well.
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Old 03-06-22, 04:03
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They should be found at lower prices than Jacques's listing?
New production: https://www.ebay.com/itm/26447757106...75.c101224.m-1
Original Ford: https://www.ebay.com/itm/293878255241

They are from the US, so you need to factor in shipping, but when combined with other purchases, they work out quite economical ( for EarlyFord2OK on Ebay, some good parts there, and their shipping is always overquoted, works out cheaper in the end.)
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