Rod Bellars collection

[rob love]

I see they have put together another round of items to auction, set for 25 days away. See here: https://www.lloydsonline.com.au/Auct...&pgn=1&pgs=100


This auction is called "the forgotten shed". I recognize a couple items as "missing lots". They were not visible on the main menu of the previous auction. But when the bidding started, they showed up, however you could not place a bid on them. I believe the term is "glitch".

[Tim Bell]

3 nice looking 2in smoke bomb throwers for tanks in that lot.

Presumably live and needing licences.

Fortunately I have one already.

[rob love]

Are those lot numbers 270,271 and 272? The photos don't match the descriptions. The descriptions are for an oerlikon, a solothurn and a hispano. Lot 273 would appear to be an American 60mm mortar, but it's listed as an Australian 2" mortar.

[Tim Bell]

Originally Posted by rob love

Are those lot numbers 270,271 and 272? The photos don't match the descriptions. The descriptions are for an oerlikon, a solothurn and a hispano. Lot 273 would appear to be an American 60mm mortar, but it's listed as an Australian 2" mortar.

Hmm... you have a point... poor listing.

[Bob Phillips]

Lots 279 & 291 show a Luger pistol while the descriptions are for a Japanese pistol and a 2 inch mortar. Hmm

[rob love]

I guess it's kind of like when Dirty Harry (Clint Eastwood) says in the movie: "Do you feel lucky....well do ya, punk"?. You might get a luger, you might get a 2" mortar. I know which one I would prefer, and it's not German.



I actually bid on a lot on the first series of auctions that had a poor description and no picture. They called it "war tools" and it came right after another listing for war tools that was the same size as the mystery batch. I surmised it was for 10 of the Vickers belt awls like the previous auction, and got the batch for $27, less than half of what the proceeding lot went for.


One thing I will say about this auction house is that they are very receptive and very forthcoming. If you send them an email, they answer back quickly and do everything they can to assist. I am pretty sure the same will go for the listings. If you send them a note about an inaccuracy of a listing, they will sort it out. I saw a few of the lots in the previous auctions where the listing was changed, and it was obviously written by someone who knew what they were talking about.

[colin jones]

Rob, it's funny you say they are very receptive and forthcoming. I have had nothing but silence. I have asked numerous times! As Lloyds have total access
to the highest bidders, what action is in place to protect the bidders from Lloyds increasing the bids with dummy bidders to maximize the price. I asked the question on 3 separate occasions and received only answers from the reception saying they will pass it on to the appropriate person. Again there was no response. The last one was telling them that I and other people NEVER received what was bid on as there was items missing. I was then told my questions were to be "escalated" to the Armory auctioneer and again there was no response. There are stories of people that put on a very high bid when they could not be there at the fall of the hammer only to find that they had won the bid and just happened to be the exact amount of their highest bid. Another one of my friends bought a artillery piece only to find a significant sighting part and tool box were removed and got no response or help. I was also missing numerous parts from boxes as well. I would suggest people to save the pictures of what you were bidding o and check what you get. I don't have a lot of confidence with on line auctions now and in particular Lloyds.