CMP towing chain and wire rope

[David Dunlop]

Hi Michael.

I notice another variation in the photos in this thread.

The ‘rope’ end of the chains in the initial photo end with a single heavy duty link. In the photos of the vehicle kit, these ends have an additional, heavy duty circular link added.

Would this be a manufacturers variation, or perhaps reflect what type of vehicle for which the chain was intended?

David

[Michael R.]

Originally Posted by David Dunlop

Hi Michael.

I notice another variation in the photos in this thread.

The ‘rope’ end of the chains in the initial photo end with a single heavy duty link. In the photos of the vehicle kit, these ends have an additional, heavy duty circular link added.

Would this be a manufacturers variation, or perhaps reflect what type of vehicle for which the chain was intended?

David

Hallo David
I cannot answer your question regards manufacture variation. If you are referring to the image in post #1, I suspect it is post-war modified. It appears sections are missing, and two alternate shape clevis introduced.

The wire rope/clevis/chain/hook assemblies on the universal carrier are found with fourteen (14) small links, and that large ring you perhaps reference? The clevis are straight side “U” shape: unlike the “horseshoe” shape shown in Post #1.

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[m606paz]

Mike
The lengths that you indicate me are of great help, since I can identify some ropes that a surplus dealer has for sale nearby.
According to this seller they are from Carrier T16E2 or CMP.
They are with some wear, but to hang from the bumper, it will be enough.
Thanks again for your help, I'll keep you posted on what I find at this surplus dealer.
Regards

[Mike Gurr]

How I wish we still had surplus dealers where we could find this sort of stuff!!

[Lynn Eades]

I agree with Michael R's statement that Mariano's tow rope (first post) shows a post war assembly based on the shackles. I don't think the British military were issued with what I believe are called "Bow" shackles, rather they were issued with "D" shackles. Also the "D" shackles used were likely rated at 2.0 ton swl or 40 Cwt. swl.(also 2 ton) This would imply to me that it was originally issued as a tow rope for a wheeled vehicle as the load rating of the shackles would require both hooks to be connected to the carrier to extract it (4 tons of carrier equals 2 x 2 ton shackles in parallel for a 4 ton pull. Bellied in mud with suction would require double this!) The wire rope is well capable while the hooks, chain and shackles are the weak parts.
In the photo, the two hooks have "D" shackles rated at 2 ton. The center Bow shackle is 3.5 ton rating (high tensile) Generally speaking "D" shackles are not high tensile, while Bow shackles are.

[m606paz]

Many thanks for your helps! This the tow parts i found

[Mike Gurr]

Great find Mariano