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Old 16-12-21, 18:05
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Good morning, I cleaned off the transmission bell housing and at top centre, the numbers 30 7408 F are visible. So, the Ford V8 engine that is in the F-60S matches the name tag on the dog house. Does this mean that whoever converted this Cab 11 or Cab 12 original F-60S was careful enough, when upgrading to the Cab 13 format, that they matched the engine to the tags that were installed on the dog house? Is this possible that the original Cab 11 or 12 dog house stayed with the chassis and motor and a new Cab 13 fit over it? I don't have another Ford here with a dog house here to compare to. Thoughts?
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Old 16-12-21, 18:30
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Normally behind first number is a letter G you can read on blocks engines...
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Old 16-12-21, 19:33
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Default Corrected - 3G 7408 F

You are correct Mariano, It is a G and not a zero. (my typo) So as far as I can tell, it is a match.

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Old 16-12-21, 22:17
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My hunch regarding the correct production date of this truck is that it was produced on 5 Jan 1942. I suspect that the 1941 date was an error by the operator of the stamping machine who had been stamping 1941 for so long that it became habit.

In 1942, 5 Jan was the first Monday of the new year. In my life there have been a number of times that I wrote or typed the wrong year during the first few days back at school/work in January.
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Old 16-12-21, 23:50
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My hunch regarding the correct production date of this truck is that it was produced on 5 Jan 1942. I suspect that the 1941 date was an error by the operator of the stamping machine who had been stamping 1941 for so long that it became habit.

In 1942, 5 Jan was the first Monday of the new year. In my life there have been a number of times that I wrote or typed the wrong year during the first few days back at school/work in January.
I'm sure you are correct there Colin.
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Old 17-12-21, 15:52
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Thank you Colin, that makes very good sense. Hanno, does that work out better for Cab 13 production dates as well? If so, I guess this vehicle has an 80th Birthday coming up on January 5th! Cheers, Richard
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Old 17-12-21, 17:48
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Hi Jacques,

You wrote "The engine number is actually on the transmission bell housing stamped just above the inspection cover as in example in photo.
I believe the thinking at the time was an engine would likely be replaced but the transmission would more likely stay in a vehicle. This was to keep track of the vehicles identity more so than the motor
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The 'G' in the Ford 'engine' number actually stands for the combination of a 3-3/16/95hp/239 cubic inch engine coupled with a 4-speed heavy-duty truck gearbox, so the number actually indicates more than just the engine, but the complete engine-gearbox assembly. So perhaps the thinking was it didn't matter where the ID number was stamped? As you know, in Aust, the 'engine' number was stamped on the front top flat of the engine block and not on the gearbox. (It was also stamped on the front right top face of the chassis in Aust assembled Fords).

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