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Old 15-12-21, 21:01
James D Teel II James D Teel II is offline
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That sounds like it might have been a school house unit; one that was taken apart and repeatedly put back together. My own army is known for things like that.
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Old 16-12-21, 20:36
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It certainly has that look about it, James, though I don’t think 202 Workshop was a training facility, beyond the possible monitoring of recent Trade School Graduates til they came up to speed.

I think most Canadian Military Trade Training takes place at CFB Borden, north of Toronto. Anything new arriving into Military Service that needed maintenance/servicing, would likely see examples of the equipment going to Borden early in the acquisition process so the various schools could gear up appropriate training courses. However, there are others here on MLU better qualified than I am who might be able to confirm if Wireless Maintenance was taught at Borden and if so, if they maintained a supply of the various sets up there for training purposes.

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Old 21-12-21, 20:25
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I have been looking closely at the Supply Unit lately, a bit nervously at first, but the more I study it, the better idea I have for developing a logical game plan in place for restoring it. The biggest part of that plan is going to be getting all the parts and things required on hand and ready to go before I start.

The Supply Unit will have to be fully disassembled in order to get everything done. So far, that process appears to only involve unsoldering one electrical connection, to the Blower Motor mounted to the front panel. I think (subject to further study) all other soldered connections can remain intact, provided I sort out the best sequence for unbolting all the other components for removal. The most challenging bit I can see so far is the removal of the front panel. It will be captive on the two drop cords until I can move it far enough away from the chassis of the Supply Unit to access the phenolic panel terminal board all the Drop Cord wires are screwed on to, directly behind the panel.

One of the things I have needed to sort out has been the types/sizes of Shakeproof Washers used in the Supply Unit, since as I already found, very few original internal toothed washers survived the 1966 Overhaul at 202 Workshop. This has been quite a challenge.

I started by listing the Shakeproof Washers from the Hardware List for the Wireless Set No. 52, taken from the 1945 Issue of the Master Parts List. This list of washers was only 10 items long and no data references were provided at all, just a 4-digit part code that could have been Canadian Army, or Shakeproof in origin. To get more data to play with, I went to the Illustrated Parts List for the Wireless Set No. 19 Mk III Cdn and added all the Shakeproof Washers from it to my list. That gave me 20 washers overall to play with, along with their related VAOS Numbers.

The other valuable thing about the 19-Set Parts List is that it is stuffed full of exploded illustrations showing the exact relationships for all the parts, including the hardware. It took a few days, but I was able to search each diagram, find the Shakeproof Washer and link it to a specific type and size of screw, or hex nut either American Standard, or British Association. That gave me 17 bits of data for 40 possible machine screw sizes, with a grey area for shouldered screws when the washer was fitted to the shoulder and not the main shank of the screw.

For the 14 American Standard Size Gauges I could identify, it started to look like the last two digits of the Parts List Shakeproof Washer Numbers related to the Gauge Size of the Machine Screw. That led me to suspect the first two digits probably held additional useful information, but there were just too many options. So yesterday morning I decided to call in the experts at Shakeproof in Wisconsin, USA and ask if they could help. I have now received a reply back from the Shakeproof Sales Team that I was indeed on the right track.

Shakeproof did have a ‘smart number part number system’. It is geared towards the American Standard Size Gauge and the last two digits of the part number for the washers identify the machine screw size up to #12. At ‘14’ it switches to standard inch fractions, more or less logically. More on that will follow shortly.

The first two numbers on the part numbers for the washers identify the tooth pattern and the material used in the washers.

I am currently updating the spreadsheet I have created to sort this all out and when completed will post a copy of it here for future reference, and include a discussion of how the BA Machine Screws fit in.


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Old 27-12-21, 23:21
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Default SUPPLY Unit ZA/CAN 4772

A little tiny bit pf progress over the Xmas Holiday.

I was able to find a correct washer and hex nut for the 6-32 x 3/8" machine screw that fastens PL5A to the right rear end of the tray on which the Receiver Vibrator Supply Unit mounts, so that screw, as noted in Post #766 is now complete for reinstallation. I also found my set of Ignition Wrenches, of which the 5/16" one will be needed to do that work later on.

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Old 28-12-21, 01:35
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Default Rotary Transformer H.P., MG2A ZA/CAN 4352

I decided to have a closer look at the two Robbins & Myers Rotary Transformers in the Supply Unit today. Not that I can do anything much with them at the moment, but more to get a better understanding of how they were assembled. A challenging task at the best of times made even more so with no surviving documentation explaining the process in detail, no detailed identification of parts and no currently known source of replacement parts.

It was the lower Rotary Transformer HP, MG2A, I decided to look at today without actually trying to remove it from the Supply Unit chassis. Since repacking the armature end bearings is one of the tasks down the road, I started by removing the end cap that was readily accessible at the back of the Supply Unit; the left end one on the transformer itself when looking at its data plate.

The end cap is a simple flat plate secured with four countersunk, slot head screws. These screws turned out to be 6-32 machine screws, in two different lengths; two of each. The shorter pair were 7/16 inch and the longer ones 9/16 inch and I carefully noted where they all came from because I have no idea at all at the moment if sizes are deliberate, or not, so best return them from where they came.

My initial impression is the end cap and the screws are all brass, but I will confirm that eventually with a magnet. With the end cap off, the next part to show up was the paper gasket keeping the Andoc-C grease in place. I did not attempt to remove it this time around in case I managed to damage it. It sure was tempting, however.

I noticed the gasket is a perfect match to the end cap in diameter and the location of the four punched screw holes. It may be the factory original gasket, or probably a factory made replacement installed in 1966. I have now added to my notes to look into whether or not this type of grease gasket paper is still available and get some in stock before exploring any further.


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Old 28-12-21, 18:16
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Default Rotary Transformer L.P., MG1A ZA/CAN 4353

The Rotary Transformer LP started calling my name this morning after I finished clearing the snow at the front of the house from yesterdays storm. Just as I finished, it started snowing again, so I retreated to the basement with a pail of fresh tea and headed over to the Supply Unit once more.

The end cap on the left end of the Rotary Transformer LP (MG1A), mounted on the mid-level shelf is also fully accessible from the back of the Supply Unit so I decided to open it up for a quick look and see if the four countersunk machine screws holding this end cap in place were consistent with those I found yesterday in the HP unit.

There are clearly a lot of common parts shared by these two rotary transformers. The big difference is the central body/case that is about one inch longer on the lower HP unit than on the upper LP one. Overall length of MG1A is 7.5 inches compared to 8.5 inches for MG2A below it.

When the four 6-32 machine screws came out, they were all 7/16” length, so I am still guessing why the other set in MG2A are two different sizes.

This time around, the paper gasket came off with the end cap all in one piece. The thin circle of grease at the centre of the gasket is black, holding a lot of fine dust. A careful look at the bearings inside revealed they are in Very Good Plus, or better, shape. No rust evident anywhere and no pitting. The grease, however, is a dark green colour and a typical soft grease. Not at all the thick, dark amber, homogenized honey like texture Andoc-C is noted to be in the literature I have read. So that is now added to my ‘Odd List’.


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Old 30-12-21, 19:35
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Default SUPPLY UNITS, Vibratory, No. 52 ZA/CAN 4354

After taking the time for a closer look at the bend in the lower section of the front panel of this Supply, I have decided it is not as sharp a crease as I originally thought. I am now of the opinion it can be carefully tapped out with a bit of careful hammer and dolly work.

That being decided, the next task in this project will be removing the front panel and getting said task completed. The end goal, in addition to the removal of the crease, will be a new coat of Gloss Navy Grey for the panel itself and the cast zinc Handle. This will bring these two pieces back in line with the fact they never got an overcoat of varnish at the factory as no decals were involved in their assembly on the line.

It will be a simple disassembly. Only two SEMS Self Threading Screws, just below the Handle, and the Handle itself, fasten the front panel to the chassis of the Supply Units, Vibratory.

One point of caution with the Handle on this Supply Units, Vibratory. It is meant to remove this sub-assembly from the Supply Unit of the 52-Set only. The Supply Unit is a heavy bit of work, Yes! The Handle mounted centrally on the front of the Supply Unit was designed to get the complete Supply Unit out of the Carriers No. 4. If you find you need extra leverage, it is best to undo the two Cowl Fasteners holding the Supply Units, Vibratory in place and pull it and its Case out first. Then you can reach in with your hand and grab the Supply Unit Chassis to help pull it out of the Carriers No. 4. The Supply Units, Vibratory is only held into the Supply Unit by two VERY TINY pins on the ends of the Cowl Fasteners and they are sitting inside a pair of very thin, spring steel receptacles. Those receptacles are ‘unobtainium’ at the moment.



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