MLU FORUM  

Go Back   MLU FORUM > MILITARY VEHICLES > The Armour Forum

Notices

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 15-06-21, 20:17
Andrew Rowe Andrew Rowe is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Manawatu , New Zealand
Posts: 567
Default

You are right in the fact that more diesel requires more air. There are the standard old liners that had a couple of rows of small holes all the around the liner and then for the bigger injectors there are liners with large e-elongated holes. You can view what type of liner you have by removing one of the little side covers on the side of the engine, and that will indicate whether the engine will appear to have been built matched to the injectors. There are quite a few different configurations that can interchange on these motors , from injectors to liners to different heads, 4 valve to the old "low block" 2 valve head. To get the power with bigger injectors the 4 valve head is needed. Cheers Andrew
__________________
Valentine MkV
Covenanter MkIV
Lynx MKI and MKII
Loyd Carrier / English / Candian / LP.
M3 Stuart
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 16-06-21, 03:06
Tony Smith's Avatar
Tony Smith Tony Smith is offline
No1, Mk 2** (I'm back!)
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Lithgow, NSW, Australia
Posts: 5,042
Default

And don't forget, too, Malcolm, that despite the presence of the Exhaust Valves in the head, the 6-71 is still a 2 stroke engine and the liners (specifically the port shapes and heights) control the timing of the Intake Cycle and cylinder scavenging, in much the same way as a camshaft controls valve timing.

Over the many years of the GM/Detroit Diesel engines, a wide variety of liners were developed to give different operating parameters, just as many 4 stoke engines had a range of camshafts for differing applications. The 6-71 has been used in Trucks, Earthmoving Plant, Locomotives, Boats, Gensets, Waterpumps (and even Tanks!). Each application had a unique need for power, torque and rpm range. The port shape in the liner is modified to optimise engine output to application.
__________________
You can help Keep Mapleleafup Up! See Here how you can help, and why you should!
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 16-06-21, 04:02
Malcolm Towrie Malcolm Towrie is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Whitby, Ontario, Canada
Posts: 306
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tony Smith View Post
And don't forget, too, Malcolm, that despite the presence of the Exhaust Valves in the head, the 6-71 is still a 2 stroke engine and the liners (specifically the port shapes and heights) control the timing of the Intake Cycle and cylinder scavenging, in much the same way as a camshaft controls valve timing.

Over the many years of the GM/Detroit Diesel engines, a wide variety of liners were developed to give different operating parameters, just as many 4 stoke engines had a range of camshafts for differing applications. The 6-71 has been used in Trucks, Earthmoving Plant, Locomotives, Boats, Gensets, Waterpumps (and even Tanks!). Each application had a unique need for power, torque and rpm range. The port shape in the liner is modified to optimise engine output to application.
Ah, yes, good point, Tony. So I should have said above that it’s effectively the ignition timing the varying injectors types can change.

Talking of 2-strokes, we have these two tanks and a bunch of military vehicles with Detroit 6V53’s, also 2-strokes. I knew they should all idle around 500 rpm, but it always sounded to me like they were idling way too fast. My light bulb moment was when I remembered that they were firing twice as fast at 500 rpm as the old rumbly 4 stroke gas engines I was used to!
Great old engines. We’ll never see the likes again.
Malcolm
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 16-06-21, 03:45
Malcolm Towrie Malcolm Towrie is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Whitby, Ontario, Canada
Posts: 306
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Andrew Rowe View Post
You are right in the fact that more diesel requires more air. There are the standard old liners that had a couple of rows of small holes all the around the liner and then for the bigger injectors there are liners with large e-elongated holes. You can view what type of liner you have by removing one of the little side covers on the side of the engine, and that will indicate whether the engine will appear to have been built matched to the injectors. There are quite a few different configurations that can interchange on these motors , from injectors to liners to different heads, 4 valve to the old "low block" 2 valve head. To get the power with bigger injectors the 4 valve head is needed. Cheers Andrew
We’ve got the liners with large holes. We had those airbox covers off to check out the pistons, ring, and bores. Pretty handy!

This tank has 4-valve heads on the original 2-valve blocks. Strangely enough, the other tank with the larger N95 injectors still has the original 2-valve heads.
Malcolm
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
M4A2 Sherman Mike Gray The Armour Forum 31 09-02-16 21:11
Wanted: Sherman M4A2 rad fans Frank v R For Sale Or Wanted 2 11-05-14 01:26
Sold: 1945 M4A2 76mm Wet Sherman 45jim For Sale Or Wanted 9 29-06-12 02:41
M4A2 Sherman III kevinT The Armour Forum 39 17-05-08 10:24
M4A2/Sherman III interior drawings, pictures? Alex van de Wetering The Armour Forum 1 10-08-05 05:18


All times are GMT +2. The time now is 14:24.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright © Maple Leaf Up, 2003-2016