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Old 30-11-20, 03:36
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Old 07-01-21, 19:30
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Evening Tony,

I can think of a few but the most frustrating thing is no one, in this part of the world, want's to pay me to make these toys.

Evening All,

2021, it doesn't seem five minutes ago that it was 1982 and I was leaving school to enter the big bad world and if someone had told me what a shit year 2020 was going to be I wouldn't have believed them. But forwards, onwards and backwards. On to the turret rotation gearbox and just to remind you what it should look like.

The top section is the actual gearbox, the lower section is just a guard to stop things getting trapped in the gear that meshes with the turret gear ring. This is what the gearbox housing looks like in my world.
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Old 07-01-21, 19:34
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The original unit rotates the turret 4 degrees for every turn of the handle, so that's 90 turns to rotate the turret through 360 degrees, which I find quite hard to believe. I would have thought that there was a fine and course setting but I can't find any evidence of this, however I have read that the gearbox could be disengaged from the turret ring so that the turret could be rotated manually by hand. The original turret ring gearing would have been quite a precise component but of course mine has been fabricated, so I am trying to compensate for this by allowing the gear that meshes with the turret ring gear to have a certain amount of horizontal float. To this end, the internal gears are housed in a frame that rotates around the small forward gear shaft bearings, at the opposite end of the frame will be a spring, that puts pressure onto the frame, thus forcing the final gear and the turret ring gear together, I hope.

It's early days but I think that it will work.



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Old 22-01-21, 21:13
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Evening All,

Things are progressing steadily in the right direction but not as quickly as I would desire. I attached the light and the power plug in the turret, a small job but another one off of the list and I have been making the components for the turret rotation gearbox.
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Old 22-01-21, 21:18
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The gear box now has it's attachment brackets welded on.
I assembled the gearbox tonight, just to see how it all fitted, it's surprising how many parts there are and this isn't all of them.
It all appears to fit ok, now I just have to machine all the key ways and make the rotation wheel, if only it were that simple.



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Old 20-02-21, 21:35
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Evening All,

At last I have finished the turret rotation gearbox, almost. It turned out to be quite complex but that was entirely due to me being too fussy.

I think the turret gearbox had*three settings, fine, course and hand, by which I mean that you can rotate it by pulling it around, all three would be too*complex for my little brain, so I decided just to incorporate two, hand and fine.**when the lever is in the vertical position the gearbox is in hand and when the lever is push forward or backwards the gearbox is in fine.

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Old 20-02-21, 21:42
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While*I was in the process*of deciding how to manufacture the rest of the components*it occurred to me that when one is concentrating on a target or having coffee, having to hold*the lever down until the gearbox internals*meshed, would be slightly inconvenient.*Therefore I*designed the gearbox internals*in such a way that once the lever is pushed forwards or backwards it locks in place,*leaving the operators hands free. *Inside the gearbox there is a keyed dog*that moves vertically on the main shaft, when*the lever is in the vertical position the*keyed*dog is in it's upper position and the turret can be rotated by hand but when the* lever is pushed forward/backwards the dog is lowered,*the keys can mesh with slots in*the large toothed gear and the turret is therefore connected to the hand wheel thus*being in fine mode.* Obviously trying to get everything*in exactly the right position for the keys and slots to mesh every time would be impossible, so to over come this*I decided to spring*load*the plate containing the keyed dog. If the lever is pushed forward or backward it*locks in position, the plate containing the keyed dog is lowered and being spring loaded, if the keys and slots do not line up,*the springs compress.*When the hand wheel is rotated and the *keys and slots line up, the pressure of the springs*force*the keys into the slots and from then on the turret is*rotated using the*hand wheel.

As clear as mud*but trying to work out how to word it was more difficult than actually making the damn thing, me thinks



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