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Old 22-09-20, 02:55
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I wonder why anyone would have wanted to import an Australian 25-pdr into the UK sometime after the late 1950s or early 1960s?

Sounds like 'coals to Newcastle'.

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Old 22-09-20, 09:06
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I wonder why anyone would have wanted to import an Australian 25-pdr into the UK sometime after the late 1950s or early 1960s?

Sounds like 'coals to Newcastle'.
It may have been supplied to / swapped sometime during WW2 to become part of British Army inventory? Would be interesting to hear this gun tell it's story on how it came to the UK.
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Old 22-09-20, 09:54
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I wonder why anyone would have wanted to import an Australian 25-pdr into the UK sometime after the late 1950s or early 1960s?

Sounds like 'coals to Newcastle'.

Mike
I actually thought the Australian 25pdr was the most interesting piece there ,it did have its foot pedal firing linkage complete and I was intending to bid on it but it just did not command the price it went for.
It had a great deal of rot in places ,surprisingly the belly of the carriage was solid.

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Old 22-09-20, 10:29
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I wonder why anyone would have wanted to import an Australian 25-pdr into the UK sometime after the late 1950s or early 1960s?

Sounds like 'coals to Newcastle'.

Mike
Mike,
I believe that Australian 25-pdr was sold at the Pickles auction of equipment from the Newcastle (NSW) Regional Museum in March 1997.

I was present at the auction and am sure it was bought by a UK dealer along with some other lots.

Actually it was coals from Newcastle!!!

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Old 22-09-20, 16:47
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Thanks Richard, that clears up the mystery nicely. Indeed, coals from Newcastle! I was pretty sure it was not a WW2 import due to the muzzle brake with locking collar and the modified traverse gearbox mounting.

I hope whoever purchased it does a nice restoration, despite the rot - the GMH guns assembled at the Pagewood plant in Sydney are the rarer of the 25-pdrs from the two Australian major co-ordinating contractors.

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Old 22-09-20, 18:36
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One can only hope, Mike. I sometimes wonder how many unique collectable items are lost forever from owners who see what they want, but not what they have.

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Old 22-09-20, 19:08
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Thanks Richard, that clears up the mystery nicely. Indeed, coals from Newcastle! I was pretty sure it was not a WW2 import due to the muzzle brake with locking collar and the modified traverse gearbox mounting.

I hope whoever purchased it does a nice restoration, despite the rot - the GMH guns assembled at the Pagewood plant in Sydney are the rarer of the 25-pdrs from the two Australian major co-ordinating contractors.

Mike
Hi Mike,
I can add a little anecdote to the Newcastle auction, the auctioneer clearly stated before bidding started on the 25-pdr that you would need to hold a licence. It was knocked down to a guy holding a beer can, who had probably already consumed several more, for $3000 Aussie dollars. When asked for the licence the guy said he did not have one. So the bidding started all over again and sold for $2300.

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Old 23-09-20, 09:36
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Hi Richard, thanks that's interesting to read.

Would you happen to know where the South African Reconnaissance Car Mk IV (a.k.a. Marmon-Herrington Recce Car) came from?


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I believe that Australian 25-pdr was sold at the Pickles auction of equipment from the Newcastle (NSW) Regional Museum in March 1997.

I was present at the auction and am sure it was bought by a UK dealer along with some other lots.

Actually it was coals from Newcastle!!!
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Old 23-09-20, 10:03
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I would put money on it being one of RnR,s ,Mike had three or four in his yard back in the early ninety's.
I think I have some pictures somewhere !


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Old 23-09-20, 13:42
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Rob, you are 100% correct, Mike was at the auction. The serial number in the catalogue matches the one in the photo on this thread.
You win the banana today !
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Old 23-09-20, 13:47
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Well thankyou mate !! Lol...........
I can remember them in his yard ,a couple of them were on Canadian chassis and at the time they had just restored one to go overseas.

Those were the good old days ........................

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Old 23-09-20, 19:11
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Hi Richard, thanks that's interesting to read.

Would you happen to know where the South African Reconnaissance Car Mk IV (a.k.a. Marmon-Herrington Recce Car) came from?

I think I have seen it somewhere before. It definitely was not in the Australian auction.
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Old 23-09-20, 20:19
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Found it ! this was one of several RnR had back in the nineties.
As I mentioned before a couple were on Canadian running gear.
There are still quite a few of these in Greek Scrap yards today .


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Old 23-09-20, 21:04
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Found it ! this was one of several RnR had back in the nineties.
As I mentioned before a couple were on Canadian running gear.
There are still quite a few of these in Greek Scrap yards today .


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That is where I must have seen it as my workshop was only a few hundred yards down the road from their yard at that time.
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