Ontario Museum buys fake German vehicles

[Jordan Baker]

Seems some at the museum are still quite sour about this. The museum PR guy quite arrogantly told me how complicated international armour purchases are. He wanted to know how my next purchase went. So I told him how my first one went. This is in now way directed to the hard working volunteer group the museum has.

[Alex van de Wetering]

Seems some at the museum are still quite sour about this.

I am sure they are...financially it was a big disaster and I am sure the responses from the classic MV world on their purchases didn't help.

I think your comment on the volunteers at the museum is very well said....I wouldn't be surprised if some volunteers did know about the originality of the vehciles and warned the staff, but were ignored. I know....just speculation, but I have seen this with volunteers at a museum in the past; they were just ignored.

[Jordan Baker]

Originally Posted by Alex van de Wetering

I think your comment on the volunteers at the museum is very well said....I wouldn't be surprised if some volunteers did know about the originality of the vehciles and warned the staff, but were ignored. I know....just speculation, but I have seen this with volunteers at a museum in the past; they were just ignored.

Judging by how openly arrogant Tank Museum Guy Jeremy Neal Blowers is that they know best on international armour purchases, it doesn’t surprise me that some of their great volunteers were ignored.

[chris vickery]

Museums are great and all but personally, I’ve found many a hobbyist to be better informed and more knowledgeable on many fronts. I’ve seen some exceptional restorations that make “museum quality” ones look like crap...
Difference between them and us? We spend our own money, they lobby for theirs.

[James P]

https://scholar.google.ca/scholar_ca...=2006&as_vis=1

Just to refresh memories for background and why due diligence is called for when making a costly purchase. What I for the life of me cannot wrap my head around is after dragging Kruse through the courts complaining about "not original" vehicles they turn around and buy a home made tank and a couple of OT810 painted up as Sd.Kfz.251s.

[Ed Storey]

Why would a museum want to waste time informing the public about the OT810 , its history and roll in the Cold War when it is more interesting to convert it into a fake German SdKfz 251. After all, it is 'musi-tainment' and not facts which sells admission tickets.

[Jakko Westerbeke]

Originally Posted by Ed Storey

Why would a museum want to waste time informing the public about the OT810 , its history and roll in the Cold War when it is more interesting to convert it into a fake German SdKfz 251. After all, it is 'musi-tainment' and not facts which sells admission tickets.

Years ago, on another forum, someone said he had bought an OT 810 and asked for opinions on which (implicitly German) colours would be good to paint it in. I replied along the lines of, “1960s Czechoslovakian green” and was promptly ignored

[Bruce Parker (RIP)]

Originally Posted by James P

What I for the life of me cannot wrap my head around is after dragging Kruse through the courts complaining about "not original" vehicles they turn around and buy a home made tank and a couple of OT810 painted up as Sd.Kfz.251s.

Home made tank??? Tell me more....

[James P]

Originally Posted by Bruce Parker

Home made tank??? Tell me more....

Panzer III is reproduction (but a VERY well made reproduction)

StuG III is FV432 based and

Hetzer is a Swiss G13 (but most "Hetzers" today are so no biggie) and OT 810s are well ...............OT 810s.