Q: Royal Canadian Dragoons markings?

[Don Dingwall]

Unbrigaded units like the RCD and Manitoba Dragoons carried white outline squadron markings.
Don

[David Dunlop]

Hanno.

Not to hijack this thread, but do you happen to know where the second photo was taken? There is something about this photo I find very intriguing. I think it is the look of the location being a very well maintained, sleepy looking residential area with a large accumulation of what might be a single Regiment’s vehicles.

Could this have been a Billet Location, or a temporary HQ site for the Regiment perhaps?

David

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Originally Posted by David Dunlop

Not to hijack this thread, but do you happen to know where the second photo was taken? There is something about this photo I find very intriguing. I think it is the look of the location being a very well maintained, sleepy looking residential area with a large accumulation of what might be a single Regiment’s vehicles.

Could this have been a Billet Location, or a temporary HQ site for the Regiment perhaps?

David, Bert may be able to answer this question.

To me it looks like a upmarket residential area, with vehicles parked up on the road for an overnight stay possibly.

Also see this post, I think it could be the same location?

http://www.mapleleafup.net/forums/sh...340#post265340

[James P]

Was that same street not in After the Battle over the years ?

[Jack Geratic]

There was a similar thread posted concerning the Manitoba Dragoons, as they too had painted (not white) outlines and numbers for their tactical markings. Sometimes even the WD number appeared dark in some photos. Perhaps as a low viz measure??

Instead of posting same info, here is the link:
http://www.mapleleafup.net/forums/sh...ad.php?t=29805

regards,
Jack

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[Bruce Parker (RIP)]

Originally Posted by Jack Geratic

There was a similar thread posted concerning the Manitoba Dragoons, as they too had painted (not white) outlines and numbers for their tactical markings. Sometimes even the WD number appeared dark in some photos. Perhaps as a low viz measure??

Instead of posting same info, here is the link:
http://www.mapleleafup.net/forums/sh...ad.php?t=29805

regards,
Jack

That's three wartime paintings that show RCD Fox with pale blue squadron markings (A, C and HQ). The top one where they are loading 50 and 30 cal. belts even hints at a red 1st Corp flash on the left front fender. Why did the artist feel it necessary to show that? Note the red 47 on the white over blue flash. It represents a Signal Corps (RCCS) unit attached to a regiment. The practice was to use the formation number of the unit the sigs were attached to but keep the white over blue signals arm of service colours.

Hijacking a little bit, one of Hughes' paintings shows various arrays of playing cards painted on the turret sides. What the heck is that all about???

[Jack Geratic]

Taking another closer look at the initial photo, and importing it to photo software, eyedropper tool shows the two areas almost similar in grey tone:

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Yellow was suggested for tactical marking colour, but then it doesn't match the maple leaf - unless the leaf was not painted yet and left white, or is (metallic) gold and giving off a sheen to make it appear light?

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It does seem a lighter than usual blue was used on both the AoS and tac mark. The example I've made is suppose to be cobalt blue, though it's not on the 1944 British Standards Chart:

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regards,
Jack

[James P]

Originally Posted by Don Dingwall

Unbrigaded units like the RCD and Manitoba Dragoons carried white outline squadron markings.
Don

Great, then show me a colour pic from back in the day as that picture of a D on the vehicle is hardly white compared to known whites.

[Bruce Parker (RIP)]

Originally Posted by James P

Great, then show me a colour pic from back in the day as that picture of a D on the vehicle is hardly white compared to known whites.

Not saying it is white, but that it's supposed to be. Peter Duggan chose white for his D squadron sign though it's 4PLDG in the 1st Division. I agree it looks darker than the white on the unit and corps signs but that could be dirt, different application times...or another colour. The background sure looks darker than the cam outside of the D. Pic one is a Lynx followed by a Humber IV and not a Daimler SC.

[Jordan Baker]

So we know the Formation sign colours in the picture. The top and bottom bar are red. The squadron symbol is very different in shade compared to the known red. Perhaps its yellow? That seemed to have been a common colour with tactical markings on carriers.

[James P]

I will just put this here and let others debate the colours seen, or not seen, in a B&W pic.

http://www.mapleleafup.net/forums/sh...d.php?p=258024

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Thanks to all for the input! I hope Bert van de Maat is reading this so he can draw up his conclusions.