Ford Canada Conventional and Modified Vehicles

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Originally Posted by Hanno Spoelstra

Apparently a French one was published, possibly this was aimed at the French speaking military during WW2?

I knew I had seen it somewhere, turns out it was here on MLU in the thread 1941 Ford fordor question. I don't know if this was a wartime or postwar publication.

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[Tony Smith]

Originally Posted by Hanno Spoelstra

I don't know if this was a wartime or postwar publication.

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The publication number of SE-29-CF would indicate it is the French version of SE-29-C, likely published at the same time, or later. This would make it a post-war publication.

I also have a copy of SE-29-C, and most of the chapters and sections are just reprints of the Canadian wartime Ford Service Bulletins or Military manuals. Canadian FSB's contain much more info than the (often-repro'd) US FSB, particularly on the developments to the V8 Engine, which US dropped for the war years.

Another manual I have is a publication by Ford Motor Company of Australia, which is a "Parts List of Conventional and Modified Conventional Pattern vehicles used by the Australian Army". Again, a distillation of information found in other Canadian publications, but it also contains a chapter on the Marmon-Herrington equipment, which I've not come across in any Canadian book.

[Bill Kreiner]

Just sharing a few basic things I found. The first comes from "Cars of Canada" by Durnford and Baechler, and merely points out that beefed-up passenger-cars and station wagons were used by the Canadian military. Also, a reserve pool of 4,500 new cars was set aside for essential civilian use (compared to over 500,000 in the U.S., I might add, the very last of which wasn't delivered till 1947).

The second and third are from "British Woodies from the 1920s to the 1950s" by Colin Peck. They describe how Ford of Canada got involved in building wagons for the British, and give contract numbers for the C11ADF. Since the last C11ADF wagons weren't delivered till 1943, it seems reasonable to conclude that no C21ADF was made, with updated 1942-model styling.

(One image is turned on its side and I can't get it to right itself, even though it's correct in my computer; please save and rotate it on your viewing device.)

[Bill Kreiner]

This is a 1926-1947 Ford of Canada sales document, breaking down by marque and type of vehicle; and if for civilian use, defense use, or if imported. Model nomenclature is unfortunately not mentioned, nor whether the vehicles were RHD or LHD. It can be very hard to read!

I retyped this into Excel to make it much easier to read:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/jat48lcmrg...nt%29.xls?dl=0

[Bill Kreiner]

These are both the same 1940 calendar-year production document, which the copy technician who was helping me at Benson Ford had to position differently to get the rest of the data. There is Canadian data.

[Bill Kreiner]

As with the 1940 document, this 1941 Ford calendar-year production document had to be positioned two ways to get all the data; that said, there is still some data cut off on the top left (which refers to U.S. vehicles, and it can be figured out what the vehicles are). But I should have checked everything before leaving! The Canadian portion is clear.

[Bill Kreiner]

Here are 1942, 1943, 1944, and 1945 Ford production documents, each with a Canadian section.

[Sergey Egorov]

Originally Posted by Tony Smith

Another manual I have is a publication by Ford Motor Company of Australia, which is a "Parts List of Conventional and Modified Conventional Pattern vehicles used by the Australian Army".

Tony, What models of this trucks? All is Ford C298T?

[Sergey Egorov]

Page from 1946 Ford Monarch Mercury Shop Manual.

[Bill Kreiner]

Ford of Australia 1941-1945 sales figures (provided by the late archivist Adrian Ryan in a document covering 1925-1971):

[lynx42]

Originally Posted by Sergey Egorov

Tony, What models of this trucks? All is Ford C298T?

Sergey, It might be one of these.

I just had a look in my library and have this Parts List TM-10-1540 for the Ford Model 218TF dated June 1942. It is for the 30cwt or 1.5 ton 4x2 truck on a 158.25 inch WB.

Hanno, I also have SE-29-C.

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Regards Rick.

[Sergey Egorov]

I think the real Ford 218TF is depicted in these photos.

[Bill Kreiner]

Does anyone know what model this 1944 Modified Conventional Ford is? I found it on an ancient thread in this group, but there is no further identification.

[Brian Gough]

Bill,

check out this MLU Forum thread:

http://www.mapleleafup.net/forums/sh...ad.php?t=13817


Brian

[Sergey Egorov]

Originally Posted by Bill Kreiner

Does anyone know what model this 1944 Modified Conventional Ford is? I found it on an ancient thread in this group, but there is no further identification.

Photo of very similar dump truck have in book Clive Law "Drive to Victory". Now I own it (book of course).