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Old 10-11-19, 10:57
Ken Smith Ken Smith is offline
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I bought this to save it and it was reasonably priced, then worked out that it was the remains of a Derrick. Chassis number is 38443S01368 there are no plates on the dash.

I am assuming the truck is RAAF as I have searched the AWM records yesterday and today and this chassis number is not there, as far as I can tell. The closest I can find is 38443001355 ARN 143412.

In civilian life the truck was used as a log skidder. The chassis is perfect and seems to have been reasonably well looked after. There is no engine or gearbox or lots of other things including the Derrick, I think I will never get to fix it, but it is nice to have.

Many years ago Ken Hughes RIP loaded some parts on to my truck, at his Caboolture block, with a perfect one of these. I was impressed at how well it worked and how well he worked it.

Ken

C60L Derrick 38443S01368 (5).JPG C60L Derrick 38443S01368 (4).JPG C60L Derrick 38443S01368 (3).JPG C60L Derrick 38443S01368 (2).JPG
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1941 Cab 12 F60L ARN 45818
1941 Cab 12 F60L ARN 46660
1941 Cab 12 F60L ARN 51720 A/T Portee
1942 Cab 13 F15 ARN 55236
1942 Cab 13 F60L ARN 58171 Mach "D" Loading
1942 Cab 13 C15 ARN 62400
1945 Cab 13 C60L ARN 77821
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Old 10-11-19, 17:53
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Hi Ken

Your truck, chassis 38443S01368, was RAAF 207664, a 'Truck, Crane, General Purpose'. (The RAAF clerk had entered the 'S' as a '5', in the register, by the way).

It was taken on charge on 21 Oct 1944, and sent for disposal on 29 September 1954.

The GP crane was also called a 'Truck, Heavy, Crane, GP' by the RAAF - they were pretty inconsistent with their nomenclature.

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Mike
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Old 10-11-19, 22:08
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I wonder if this is the same bus in better times.
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Old 11-11-19, 07:11
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Good day,
Thanks for the invaluable information on the truck Mike, I don't know how you do it so quickly. I spent 2 days searching ARN 40,000 to roughly 150,000 although I do get side tracked a bit. Then I got within a few ARNs of what is needed then nothing. I really appreciate you sharing your valuable historic resource.
The truck has now got a soul.

Graeme, looks like the same bus there can't have been to many like that. Thanks for putting the photo on.
Ken
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1941 Cab 12 F60L ARN 51720 A/T Portee
1942 Cab 13 F15 ARN 55236
1942 Cab 13 F60L ARN 58171 Mach "D" Loading
1942 Cab 13 C15 ARN 62400
1945 Cab 13 C60L ARN 77821
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Old 11-11-19, 16:46
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Hi Ken,

Always happy to assist where I can. You were lucky: the data was in my files, just had to look for it. It's always a bit hit-or-miss with these things, as the data is far from comprehensive.

Mike
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Old 06-12-19, 04:11
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Good day,

I thought I read somewhere that the cab 13 Canadian Chev engine cover and the Australian Holden engine cover are different.
Is that correct?

Ken
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1942 Cab 13 F60L ARN 58171 Mach "D" Loading
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Old 06-12-19, 13:01
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Good day,
I got the RAAF Derrick Chev shown above home this week, and I am happy with it. I might poke an engine in it one day. I have a 235 spare, unfortunately it has the engine mounts on the side not on the front like the 216. Lucky I am not in any hurry.

I also purchased the C15 and the F15 that was in the paddock with the Derrick.
The F15 is interesting. I thought it was a bitzer, it is the opposite sort of, the ARN on the front is 53899 which is a Ford 6 seater utility and I assumed that the front had been put on to the F15.
I bought 2 Ford transmissions from the same place, and 1 of the boxes has the correct chassis number 3G24582 for ARN 53899. So I have the remains of a hard worked and 6 seater utility.
The rear part of the cab is not bolted on and is fitted upside down. There are other tell tale sign on the back and sides of the floor pan to indicate it was a 6 seater.

Ford 6 seater utility (3).JPG

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Ford 6 seater utility (7).JPG

I only purchased it to fit the springs and axles, to my Cab 11 F15 which will make it easier to move it around. Funny thing is both trucks have had about 30 inches added to the middle of the chassis.
The 6 seater has a tac sign with a Boomerang at the bottom but I can't make out the top part clearly, it could be a crocodile, maybe.

Ken
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1941 Cab 12 F60L ARN 46660
1941 Cab 12 F60L ARN 51720 A/T Portee
1942 Cab 13 F15 ARN 55236
1942 Cab 13 F60L ARN 58171 Mach "D" Loading
1942 Cab 13 C15 ARN 62400
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Old 06-12-19, 13:50
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Good day,

I thought I read somewhere that the cab 13 Canadian Chev engine cover and the Australian Holden engine cover are different.
Is that correct?

Ken

Hi Ken


Here is a link to photos and measurements for the Canadian made Pattern 13 engine cover http://canadianmilitarypattern.com/P...20Drawings.htm



Hope that somebody with a Holden Pat 13 cover can take a look to see what the differences are, might be that they are completely different and not interchangeable or may be that they are just different and are interchangeable as a unit.


Cheers Phil
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Old 07-12-19, 07:05
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Thanks Phil, those detailed measurements will be handy. I do have an engine cover in my Indian C60L but would like to have the correct Canadian one, I suspect the one I have is Australian.
Your pictures and measurements will be a big help.
Ken
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1941 Cab 12 C60L AIF L4710841 Middle East veteran
1941 Cab 12 F60L ARN 45818
1941 Cab 12 F60L ARN 46660
1941 Cab 12 F60L ARN 51720 A/T Portee
1942 Cab 13 F15 ARN 55236
1942 Cab 13 F60L ARN 58171 Mach "D" Loading
1942 Cab 13 C15 ARN 62400
1945 Cab 13 C60L ARN 77821
1941 Chevrolet 3 Ton GS ARN AIF L16070 Middle East veteran
Canadian REL (APF) radar trailer
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