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1953 M37CDN Paint Complete
Well, almost, still have to do the doors, but I am pleased with my hand painted markings on the hood.
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Vehicle Markings
Those are very nice hand-painted markings! Are they based on a specific vehicle as the tactical sign markings evolved over time.
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M37 in Masset
Clint, You should take some photo of the M37 in front of the elephant cage.
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Yes, I carefully replicated what I found under the paint. The doors will have the CAR number and white diamonds.
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The markings were very carefully uncovered, measurements taken, and replicated as closely as possible. The doors had the remains of a triangle, a square, a circle, and a diamond, all in white, so it belonged to different squadrons during its career. Any information about the markings would be welcomed, I would love to know what the “51” means.
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Vehicle Markings
You were indeed fortunate that you had surviving markings to document and wise to accurately replicate them on your nicely restored M37CDN. The "51" means that the vehicle was assigned to an armoured regiment. The British inspired tactical markings are intended to be somewhat mystifying and were changed on occasion with those used by the post-war Canadian being especially challenging to decipher decades afterwards.
Do you have the CFR and serial number for your M37CDN? |
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When the field forces of the Canadian Army were organized as a Division, the tactical serials allocated to the armoured regiments were as follows: 50 - The Royal Canadian Dragoons (1st Armoured Regiment) 51 - Lord Strathcona's Horse (Royal Canadians) (2nd Armoured Regiment) 52 - 1/8th Canadian Hussars In 1958 when the field forces were reorganized as Brigade Groups, the tactical serial became a '5' which signified an armoured regiment in an infantry brigade group. All of the armoured regiments carried the same serial '5' whether in Germany or Canada. This lasted till about 1970 when the system of tactical markings went from the British to a new and low vis system. Cheers, Dan. |
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Tac Signs
I have one more question, why are all of my tac signs white? It had the triangle, square, diamond, and I believe a circle at different times. All were in white. Shouldn’t Lord Stathcona’s Horse be yellow?
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There was a reason for different coloured squadron signs but I can't recall what they were. I don't know if the system was still in use after the War. I don't believe that individual regiments were allocated coloured squadron signs, but I'm always willing to be proven wrong. While I'm here, I have to correct something I wrote earlier. The serial '5' in an infantry brigade group was allocated to the brigade reconnaissance squadron and not the armoured regiment. The armoured regiment was allocated serial '2'. Apologies for the error. Cheers, Dan. |
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If you have a photograph of a Canadian Centurion with the serial '41' on an arm of service rectangle, or know where I could find one, I would very much like to see it. During 1957 the RCD was the armoured regiment in Germany. It was the year the brigade tank strength was increased from a squadron to a regiment. Cheers, Dan. |
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Now you've piqued my interest! Cheers, Dan. |
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1947 markings manual
Have you guys seen the "Vehicle Markings - Canada 1947" book Rob Love has that explains a lot of this? There may have been changes in the 1950's and this manual obviously predates the M series Dodges but is quite helpful.
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Did the Doors Today
Here is an update.
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M37CDN Markings
Congratulations! A first class restoration with exceptional markings.
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According to Appendix 'G' the following colour rules applied to the tactical signs (circle, square, diamond etc) for armoured regiments within a formation: Senior Regt - Red Second Regt - Yellow Third Regt - Blue Fourth Regt - Green Fifth Regt - Brown In unbrigaded units the sign will be painted in White. Unfortunately the pamphlet does not give the serials for the units. Cheers, Dan. |
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I drive by it every day on my way to and from work....
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Thanks!
Thanks for the photo of the elephant cage. I have not seen that for a while....
Cheers! Stuart |
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A quick Google on CFS Massett gave:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CFS_Masset https://www.google.com/search?q=cfs+...53949244&vet=1 https://www.101nisquadron.org/wwii-r...tation-masset/ I don't have any specific information to back this but suspect that given the Wiki statement that it is a signals intercept station, the elephant cage may be a form of antenna. On edit, http://www.jproc.ca/rrp/masset.html describes the structure as an antenna. |
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Elephant cages for curious minds
Elephant cage, Massett, Queen Charlotte Islands, BC (cold war location), now called Haida Gwaii is the site of a base that had a cold war antenna AN/FLR-9 that was used for directional work on the HF bands.
World Wide High Frequency Direction Finding System. High-frequency radio communication signals travel to receivers over the horizon by bouncing off the ionosphere. The shell of ionised particles which surrounds the earth refracts the signals so that they return to earth rather than disappear out into space. The clarity of the signal received depends on atmospheric and topographical conditions. HF-DF stations detect radio signals from aircraft or ships, and calculate the direction, or line of bearing, of the radio transmitter from the direction finding antenna. When the same signal is received by two or more antennae, the intersection of the lines of bearing mark the transmitter's location, using either precision single station location (SSL) capability, or in a network of DF stations using both multi-station azimuth triangulation and SSL. High Frequency Acquisition (AQ) and Direction Finding (DF) operations are performed with the Narrowband System (NBS) and Wideband Direction Finding (WBDF) Subsystem in support of normal and degraded communications modes, using both adaptive reception and super-resolution direction finding techniques. The AN/FLR-9 circularly disposed antenna array (CDAA), popularly known as elephant cages*, have a nominal range between 150 to 5000 kilometers. Consisting of two rings of HF antennae, the inner ring, for monitoring longer longer wavelength signals, is typically some 230 meters in diameter with some containing 40 folded dipoles. The outer ring for monitoring shorter HF wavelengths is is about 260 meters in diameter and contains some 120 sleeve monopoles. Inside each ring is a large wire screen, supported by 80 towers, to shield antennae on the other side of the array from HF signals from crossing the array, which would interfering with geolocation operations. A horizontal ground screen about 400 meters in diameter surrounds the entire site. The station's intercept operators work in an operations building in the center of the array. There was a significant CF base on Masset, which is one of the best locations on the West coast for Canada for this technology. To the north, you can see Alaska, To the west, over the Pacific, there is nothing until you reach Japan. The standard answer to questioning civilians, was it was an "elephant cage".... now you know.... That is why the elephant cage is the best backdrop for a Cold War M-37. |
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Elephant cage
I took a side trip on my way home today.
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Another
I took this from the beach side.
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Elephant tracks in the sand
Thank you for the images. Perfect....
You can almost see the elephant tracks in the sand. Sometimes at night, the elephants sneak out for a quick dip in the surf.... Cheers! Stuart |
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