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Old 22-08-19, 15:36
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Hi,

In France, the HMVs owners lived the same problem between 2002 and 2006 with the Sarkozy Law. Here is a short article about this law that was challenged with success by the authorities of the French Federation of vintage vehicles (FFVE) and the MVCG France.

https://www.ffve.org/dossier_vehicules_militaires

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Old 22-08-19, 16:01
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Again me,

In this article published yesterday in the Journal de Montreal, Minister Bonardel states that it was the manufacturers of these vehicles who warned the government. "It was the suppliers themselves who wrote to us to tell us how dangerous it could be if there was an accident" he insisted.

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/20...aide-bonnardel

If that is true, then we can assume that the government authorities of the other provinces of the country were also notified by these manufacturers/suppliers. For colleagues from other provinces, do you think that your government authorities have also received such letters?
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"It was the suppliers themselves who wrote to us to tell us how dangerous it could be if there was an accident"
Is it too cynical to suspect the corporations are mainly concerned with the danger to their financial well-being rather than any possible danger to the operators of the vehicles or members of the public?
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Old 22-08-19, 17:23
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Is it too cynical to suspect the corporations are mainly concerned with the danger to their financial well-being rather than any possible danger to the operators of the vehicles or members of the public?
Good question Grant. In the same way, I raised a question last week about the new Mihandra jeeps that some sellers in Quebec have been selling since recently. Inspired by the old CJ5 jeeps, with performance very similar to our WWII jeeps, these vehicles can only be registered for off-road. Is there any reason to believe that these new vehicles could influence the SAAQ authorities on this issue to want to impose a C-plate on historic military vehicles?

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/20...endu-au-canada

https://auto.ndtv.com/news/u-s-to-pr...plaint-1915425
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Does Quebec have an access to information law? Could one not request copies of any relevant information, including the letters, that gave cause to enact these policies?
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Old 22-08-19, 22:59
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Does Quebec have an access to information law? Could one not request copies of any relevant information, including the letters, that gave cause to enact these policies?
As I know until now, no-one could get the letters written to the SAAQ, not even more than it gives the names of these suppliers, and the government authorities gives no more reasons other than those of this ministerial decree. Most likely that the cause will have to be brought in court for the government reveals its sources.
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Hi everyone.
Im the guy in BC having problems registering my 1961 ferret.
The main problem i am having is the fact ICBC and CVSE are refusing to acknowledge that the ferret is a antique motor vehicle, exempt from the current safety regulations in place in BC.
I purchased DOT rated tyres, passed a safety inspection, and then tried to register it.
ICBC will not let me transfer it into my name or even take the transfer taxs involved in the sale.
ICBC contacted a CVSE representative, and based on pictures, and google images, CVSE decided it was not possible for it to pass a safety inspection because it doesnt have all the safety features necessary for today's standards.
CVSE went to the safety inspection facility and threatened to fine the mechanic and pull the operation license from the company if they did not surrender my inspection paperwork.
I did not want to cause drama for the inspection company so i returned my paperwork to the company and then they surrendered it to CVSE.
Because ICBC and CVSE are refusing to acknowledge that it is a antique vintage motor vehicle it may also not be exempt from the Armoured Vehicle and After-Market Compartment Control Act in place in BC.
It has been very frustrating that ICBC and CVSE will not follow the laws in BC based on their personal dislike of the appearance of this vehicle.
Despite ill informed rumours, i have never driven my ferret in BC, and i am quite annoyed how it hasn't done anything more then idle in my driveway.
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Patrick,

Great write up. I would like to help you, and have some suggestions, can you please contact me by email please.
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Does Quebec have an access to information law? Could one not request copies of any relevant information, including the letters, that gave cause to enact these policies?
See my link in post#15.
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Hi,

I have a question asking by a fellow friend impacted by the new SAAQ ministerial decree. Is it possible to drive on Ontario roads an HMV that has a C-plate?

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