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Old 30-03-19, 22:09
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Wow, very interesting period picture Peter. It destroyed my belief of the early round air-flows being mounted on WOT8 exclusively. This must have been a very early WOT6 contract, switching the production from WOT8. Would be interesting to see the dash setup. I believe the later slope airflow cover was improvement to prevent water leaking inside the cab. Also I believe the hydraulic spare wheel holder must have been mounted to very early WOT6s. Too complex to meet war production cost requirements and maintenance in field I suppose.
I have a large maintenance manual for WOT6 GS, WOT6 Machinery and WOT8 which shows a better picture of the hydraulic holder system. It also contains some interesting pictures like the top cab removal.
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Old 31-03-19, 23:55
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Thanks for those added photos. Helps with my build plans.

I must have a good read of the parts books again, but I suspect they are for the later contract vehicles (V-5088). Going by the 'Chilwell List', this vehicle was from contract V-4150 so I will have to do some more 'digging'.

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Wow, very interesting period picture Peter. It destroyed my belief of the early round air-flows being mounted on WOT8 exclusively. This must have been a very early WOT6 contract, switching the production from WOT8. Would be interesting to see the dash setup. I believe the later slope airflow cover was improvement to prevent water leaking inside the cab. Also I believe the hydraulic spare wheel holder must have been mounted to very early WOT6s. Too complex to meet war production cost requirements and maintenance in field I suppose.
I have a large maintenance manual for WOT6 GS, WOT6 Machinery and WOT8 which shows a better picture of the hydraulic holder system. It also contains some interesting pictures like the top cab removal.
I have just received the same manual and the first section on the bodywork mentioned the two differing fronts, the early WOT6 and the WOT8 originally had a multi-piece front section. Like the hydraulic spare wheel carrier, this was obviously simplified on later contracts.
I suspect the scoop type ventilators were added when the one piece front panel went into production.

I've added the red arrows!

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Old 02-04-19, 08:57
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Hi Peter,

good spot, this would be true as the early engine cowling is clearly seen on the picture from remowing the WOT6 top roof. This means the whole early dash set-up would be the same as on WOT8. But looking at the picture you can see that the scoop front vents are introduced already whilst the engine cowling it still old style. I guess on the turn in production there would be lots of mysteries like this. They would use whatever was left on stock before introduction of the new type.

Thinking of it again, it is very strange that the later WOT8s were mounted with the scoop style vents but on your picture of the NZ army truck iwhich is obviously WOT6, it still has the early round type vents. Does not make much sense to me at the moment .
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Old 02-04-19, 11:37
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Peter,
Your reference to the engine cowling change refers to the engine cover inside the cab, not to the front panel of the cab itself as you seem to suggest in post #20.

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Peter,
Your reference to the engine cowling change refers to the engine cover inside the cab, not to the front panel of the cab itself as you seem to suggest in post #20.

David
Hi David. Yes, in re-reading the manual again that makes sense.

Another item of note, the early GS bodies appear to be wooden with metal framing and the later bodies were metal sided with what appears to be wooden metal framed front and tailgate. More coming to light!

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Old 04-04-19, 09:18
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[QUOTE=Another item of note, the early GS bodies appear to be wooden with metal framing and the later bodies were metal sided with what appears to be wooden metal framed front and tailgate. More coming to light!
Cheers,
Pete M.[/QUOTE]

Pete, I think this is not a principle as I have an early WOT8 with round vents which had a metal sided body with wooden tailgate, same as the last surviving WOT8 in the UK which has the scoop air vents. You can see late WOT6s with both wooden and metal bodies. The workshop trucks had wooden body. In my quess there were more producers of the GS bodies.
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